Amazing a thread like this gets 25,000+ views in a few weeks...
Other threads with substance and that are uplifting/inspirational get very few...
And we wonder why things happen in churches like this? I read about 3 pages worth and I decided I need to go take a shower...
I wish I hadn't read any of it...
and yet you felt the need to respond? If you feel that strongly that something like this should not be discussed here, then wouldn't it make more sense for you to just step back and let it die a slow death? By responding you are keeping it alive.
And for the record, I have a feeling that there are some people who need to talk thru this. I can't even imagine the pain that those people are in right now. Maybe they won't get any answers here but at least they can get if off their chests.
Ok, I'm backing back out now. This is not my fight.
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I see that the first part of my post was not well liked by somebody. It must have been the part about prison. But tell me really, name one thing in my post that is factually incorrect. You can't. Its all true.
As for the second part, his ambition outweighs his shame.
I have seen it said that the Bishop "did not provide" someone to take over the church or that he provided the "boyfriend". Let's clear that up for everybody right now. The Bishop said mulitple times, before he was "mentally diminished", that the "boyfriend" was not annointed to pastor the church and could not handle the job. It was only after he was "mentally diminished" and "under the control of the daughter" that the "boyfriend" was nominated. You put enough pills in a man that has Alzheimer's, give him a script and rehearse it with him, he will say what you want.
As far as the Bishop not having someone in place before he became "mentally diminished", he attempted to put somebody in place several times, but he was always worked against and double teamed by the "daughter" and "boyfriend".
I see that the first part of my post was not well liked by somebody. It must have been the part about prison. But tell me really, name one thing in my post that is factually incorrect. You can't. Its all true.
As for the second part, his ambition outweighs his shame.
I have seen it said that the Bishop "did not provide" someone to take over the church or that he provided the "boyfriend". Let's clear that up for everybody right now. The Bishop said mulitple times, before he was "mentally diminished", that the "boyfriend" was not annointed to pastor the church and could not handle the job. It was only after he was "mentally diminished" and "under the control of the daughter" that the "boyfriend" was nominated. You put enough pills in a man that has Alzheimer's, give him a script and rehearse it with him, he will say what you want.
As far as the Bishop not having someone in place before he became "mentally diminished", he attempted to put somebody in place several times, but he was always worked against and double teamed by the "daughter" and "boyfriend".
Could you please give me proof of the evidence of what you say? Anyone can just say such as this happened but I would love to have some substantiated PROOF. I can tell by your words you are a mud slinger from way back. Sounds like you are saying ** doped her Father up. Shame on you for being a tale bearer if you didn't see it with your own eyes or hear it with your own ears don't let it be said that you spread it with your writings or your big mouth. Who were these people that *name removed by admin* attempted to put in place, I must have slept through that. Because, *name removed by admin* was not the kind to attempt to do things, He did them. Also, my name is Betty Meeks and I don't hide behind a made up name, can you say the same?
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I Have been asked by members of HEART OF PRAISE EVERLASTING to set the record straight once and for all. First of all, the amazing group that left, has been through the fire, but has finally come out. They were hurt by the people they called friends, but not one of them has a bad word to say about any of them. They have left GR and have started a new family. They were not lead by any one person, it was a group decision, and one that was made after many sleepless nights spent in prayer and fasting. They want you all to know they have no hard feelings toward anyone, but at the same time, they no longer have a concern about anything pertaining to GR. Not the building, the pastor, or any properties that may be attached to GR. The man that has been under such scrutiny, the man they are bashing for "splitting the church" RH has never one time said or led anyone to believe he wanted to become pastor. His response and attitude this entire time has always been, whatever the people want and whatever the will of God is. They have had visiting preachers every Sunday and the power of God has been amazing. One prayed back through, one filled with the Holy Ghost, and praying and singing that is under the powerful anointing. They have a new location, a new name and God is blessing their integrity to worship together as a body. This has brought them to their knees, which has sweetened their relationship with their God and with their fellow worshipers. Thanks to everyone that has been praying for this group of people, they have made it through. They do NOT feel like the victims, they feel like they are in the perfect will of GOD!!!!!!!
I Have been asked by members of HEART OF PRAISE EVERLASTING to set the record straight once and for all. First of all, the amazing group that left, has been through the fire, but has finally come out. They were hurt by the people they called friends, but not one of them has a bad word to say about any of them. They have left GR and have started a new family. They were not lead by any one person, it was a group decision, and one that was made after many sleepless nights spent in prayer and fasting. They want you all to know they have no hard feelings toward anyone, but at the same time, they no longer have a concern about anything pertaining to GR. Not the building, the pastor, or any properties that may be attached to GR. The man that has been under such scrutiny, the man they are bashing for "splitting the church" RH has never one time said or led anyone to believe he wanted to become pastor. His response and attitude this entire time has always been, whatever the people want and whatever the will of God is. They have had visiting preachers every Sunday and the power of God has been amazing. One prayed back through, one filled with the Holy Ghost, and praying and singing that is under the powerful anointing. They have a new location, a new name and God is blessing their integrity to worship together as a body. This has brought them to their knees, which has sweetened their relationship with their God and with their fellow worshipers. Thanks to everyone that has been praying for this group of people, they have made it through. They do NOT feel like the victims, they feel like they are in the perfect will of GOD!!!!!!!
YourKidsMom,
Thanks for this report. I am glad that the group who left are not allowing any attachments to buildings, location, or other earthly things come between them and continuing to worship and serve God.
__________________ "I think some people love spiritual bondage just the way some people love physical bondage. It makes them feel secure. In the end though it is not healthy for the one who is lost over it or the one who is lives under the oppression even if by their own choice"
Titus2woman on AFF
"We did not wear uniforms. The lady workers dressed in the current fashions of the day, ...silks...satins...jewels or whatever they happened to possess. They were very smartly turned out, so that they made an impressive appearance on the streets where a large part of our work was conducted in the early years.
"It was not until long after, when former Holiness preachers had become part of us, that strict plainness of dress began to be taught.
"Although Entire Sanctification was preached at the beginning of the Movement, it was from a Wesleyan viewpoint, and had in it very little of the later Holiness Movement characteristics. Nothing was ever said about apparel, for everyone was so taken up with the Lord that mode of dress seemingly never occurred to any of us."
Quote from Ethel Goss (widow of 1st UPC Gen Supt. Howard Goss) book "The Winds of God"
I Have been asked by members of HEART OF PRAISE EVERLASTING to set the record straight once and for all. First of all, the amazing group that left, has been through the fire, but has finally come out. They were hurt by the people they called friends, but not one of them has a bad word to say about any of them. They have left GR and have started a new family. They were not lead by any one person, it was a group decision, and one that was made after many sleepless nights spent in prayer and fasting. They want you all to know they have no hard feelings toward anyone, but at the same time, they no longer have a concern about anything pertaining to GR. Not the building, the pastor, or any properties that may be attached to GR. The man that has been under such scrutiny, the man they are bashing for "splitting the church" RH has never one time said or led anyone to believe he wanted to become pastor. His response and attitude this entire time has always been, whatever the people want and whatever the will of God is. They have had visiting preachers every Sunday and the power of God has been amazing. One prayed back through, one filled with the Holy Ghost, and praying and singing that is under the powerful anointing. They have a new location, a new name and God is blessing their integrity to worship together as a body. This has brought them to their knees, which has sweetened their relationship with their God and with their fellow worshipers. Thanks to everyone that has been praying for this group of people, they have made it through. They do NOT feel like the victims, they feel like they are in the perfect will of GOD!!!!!!!
I am totally amazed at this since several of the people from HOPE have called me today asking if it is to late to get GR back. The visiting preacher this Sunday did not preach, RH did. Glad that things are doing so well though. But, next time you speak for everyone please make sure you are.
I Have been asked by members of HEART OF PRAISE EVERLASTING to set the record straight once and for all. First of all, the amazing group that left, has been through the fire, but has finally come out. They were hurt by the people they called friends, but not one of them has a bad word to say about any of them. They have left GR and have started a new family. They were not lead by any one person, it was a group decision, and one that was made after many sleepless nights spent in prayer and fasting. They want you all to know they have no hard feelings toward anyone, but at the same time, they no longer have a concern about anything pertaining to GR. Not the building, the pastor, or any properties that may be attached to GR. The man that has been under such scrutiny, the man they are bashing for "splitting the church" RH has never one time said or led anyone to believe he wanted to become pastor. His response and attitude this entire time has always been, whatever the people want and whatever the will of God is. They have had visiting preachers every Sunday and the power of God has been amazing. One prayed back through, one filled with the Holy Ghost, and praying and singing that is under the powerful anointing. They have a new location, a new name and God is blessing their integrity to worship together as a body. This has brought them to their knees, which has sweetened their relationship with their God and with their fellow worshipers. Thanks to everyone that has been praying for this group of people, they have made it through. They do NOT feel like the victims, they feel like they are in the perfect will of GOD!!!!!!!
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Some get spiritual because they see the light. Others because they feel the heat.Ray Wylie Hubbard
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