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Old 09-03-2012, 12:29 PM
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Re: Video Of Muslim Crucifiction

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As I said earlier this is Texas and we don't do things the same way here that they do in Isreal or Yemen.
I think everyone knows we do things differently...isn't that WHY it's newsworthy?

what if we dragged every muslim out, legally, and beat them up...we can just say "well we do things differently here than you do over there"...The fact that it's done differently in one area or another is irrelevant.

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You must otherwise be numb if you actually believe I am either upset or surprised that you take the execution of good Muslims and use it to further your anti-Muslim agenda.
So when good muslims are executed it does not upset you?

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My initial comment that this had nothing to do with religion stands
Uh, no it doesn't. This was an action NOT by the Yemeni government but by an extremist group implementing Sharia Law.

Why do you crucify people? Was it an arbitrary decision by a secular government or is it a religious teaching of Islam? Beheadings? Amputations?

I already quoted the News source. The Yemen government never did such a thing. This was an Islamic based punishment in accordance with Shariah law

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and do not mistake my comments towards your ongoing anti-muslim agenda while pointing out your hypocracy as sympathy towards the current direction of Yemeni policy. Since you continue to make this about Islam and Muslims I guess I will bite. I have some free time.
This is an amazing forum. We post negative stuff about Pentecostals and some people say we have an anti-Pentecostal agenda. We post stuff about Democrats and we have an anti-Democrat agenda etc etc..then WII comes along any time something is posted about Islam and we are also all anti-Muslim. LOL.

What Yemeni policy? This was NOT the actions of the Yemeni government. I already posted that information.
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Reminder: We talked about this a couple of years ago when you were babbling about how afraid you are that some tent-dwelling Yemeni was going to declare jihad on your small town from his mud hut and I tried to calm your fears by briefing you that on the very day that you were cowering in fear over your keyboard there were brave Muslim (Saudi) soldiers down at the Yemeni border (just) south of us who took up weapons and stood the wall for you. Rather than acknowledging this with a simple thanks you have again convinced yourself that those brave soldiers who were in fact protecting your hometown are actually, due to their religion, part of the problem rather than using the business end of their weapons to be part of the solution.
Yeah right. Oh yeah I remember that "conversation". lol..it never happened. What a load of camel dung WII.

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Since you will not acknowledge this I will cheerfully do it for you. The fact that you cannot acknowledge it no matter what factual information is put in front of you only demonstrates your own fear and weakness.
Hey, why not do a search and post the link to that "conversation" where I expressed fear of some tent dwelling Yemeni blah blah blah

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With that said I will pick through your posts and answer them:

And as more and more Muslims like yourself don't stand up against this kind of stuff why are you so upset and surprised that non-Muslims react this way? They are led to believe you are ALL for this kind of stuff because rather than speaking out against it, you seem to justify it.

Good Muslims gave their lives in a horrible way to stand up against the very thing that you apply across the board to all Muslims. At a minimum you owe them a simple thank you unless you are willing to pick up a weapon and stand the wall? Didnt think so. A simple thanks will suffice then.
So in other words you won't stand up against these forms of brutal punishments or the actions of extremist groups. No of course not. That is what leads many people to believe that even the so called Moderate muslims really do support their actions. That is why threads like this continue with the presumption and all or most Muslims are the same. Why not just stand up and say "Muslims don't all agree with that kind of stuff. Most of us are Moderate and find the actions of those muslims deplorable."

You don't and it makes people really wonder and believe you support that kind of stuff. If you DO support it, then why not just post "Yes I agree with that stuff" instead of trying to turn the tables on those that post? Are you embarrassed at the behavior of Muslims in the middle east?

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You aren't very objective.

Objective? It is one thing to risk the death penalty in California, where you are 90% likely to die of old age. It is quite another to risk a sure death to stand up against the likes of Al'Qaeda. The Muslims who were executed standing up to them took their chances and do not deserve your anti-Muslim comments.
But you can post anonymously HERE against Al Queda...actually the Muslims that, if they were really Muslims, died in such a way that WE find deplorable. And you have yet to stand up and AGREE. That is the problem. You turn everything into a blanket "anti-muslim" agenda issue when in reality I found THIS act against others deplorable whether they were Muslims or not. I find Muslim on Muslim violence as deplorable as any other but the METHOD in this situation was brutal yet you seemed to JUSTIFY it rather than agree that it was terrible.

That is what I had been saying. Had you just stood and posted "I find these executions deplorable" , you would have deserved an AMEN!

But you did not and you seemed to justify them when you lamented that the US also executes spys...nothing said about how brutal a 3 day crucifixion was from you

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Beheading is swift. Which is why it is the preferred method of execution.
It's preferred because Islamic Law makes it one of the preferred methods. It's a bloody mess and if the guy doing it messes up it's rather brutal. It's done publicly and in addition these people might also often be crucified publicly for days for everyone else to see

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Saudi Arabia

Saudi Arabian authorities beheaded four men in February 2007— Sangeeth Kumara, Victor Corea, Ranjith Silva and Sanath Pushpakumara.These four Sri Lankan workers were convicted in a Saudi Arabian court for an armed robbery committed in October 2004. Their deaths sparked reactions from the international human rights group Amnesty International, which called on the Saudi authorities to abolish the death sentence. The court also ruled that the bodies of the four workers be crucified for public view as an example for others. In most such cases the respective embassy is notified only after the execution, thereby eliminating chances for international or diplomatic protest
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decapitation

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Ole sparky was not always meaning rarely lethal the first time (LOL are you KIDDING me trying to describe how humane the electric chair was?
Most of the time but again this is why most states of stopped using the chair.

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this is not the first time Prax that you have mistaken me for ignorant) which is why it has been retired.
You are talking about a rarity.

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Firing squads were still used up to 3-4 years ago as ole Ronnie Lee found out back in 2010 (Utah? chilling thought - maybe the soon to be new president will start that back up?).
Right, but not any more. I also find firing squads deplorable as I do the chair as I do CRUCIFIXION for 3 days. See, you take criticisms of how Muslims execute people as anti-Muslim yet I also am against the forms of executions that have occured in the US and in Europe.,.what "anti" does that make me?

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I guess it depends on how good a shot the triggerman is but it is suspected that it is possible that perhaps the first shot may not have gotten the job done the first time.
Yes just as it depends on how good a swing the guy is who swings the sword. I find both rather primitive.
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