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Old 09-03-2012, 12:30 PM
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Re: Video Of Muslim Crucifiction

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Using drugs gets you lashed. It is dealing or running drugs that gets you executed.
Saudi Arabia has a criminal justice system based on a hardline and literal form of Sharia law due to Islam being the official state religion.
The death penalty can be imposed for a wide range of offences[2] including murder, rape, armed robbery, repeated drug use, apostasy,[3] adultery,[4] witchcraft and sorcery[5] and can be carried out by beheading with a sword, or more rarely by firing squad, and sometimes by stoning.
The 345 reported executions between 2007 and 2010 were all carried out by public beheading.[6] The last reported execution for sorcery took place in 2012.[7] There were no reports of stoning between 2007 and 2010,[6] but between 1981 and 1992 there were four cases of execution by stoning reported.[8]
Crucifixion of the beheaded body is sometimes ordered.[5] For example, in 2009, the Saudi Gazette reported that "An Abha court has sentenced the leader of an armed gang to death and three-day crucifixion (public displaying of the beheaded body) and six other gang members to beheading for their role in jewelry store robberies in Asir."[9]
In 2003, Muhammad Saad al-Beshi, whom the BBC described as "Saudi Arabia's leading executioner", gave a rare interview to Arab News.[3] He described his first execution in 1998: "The criminal was tied and blindfolded. With one stroke of the sword I severed his head. It rolled metres away...People are amazed how fast [the sword] can separate the head from the body."[3] He also said that before an execution he visits the victim's family to seek forgiveness for the criminal, which can lead to the criminal's life being spared.[3] Once an execution goes ahead, his only conversation with the prisoner is to tell him or her to recite the Muslim declaration of belief, the Shahada.[3] "When they get to the execution square, their strength drains away. Then I read the execution order, and at a signal I cut the prisoner's head off," he said.[3]


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capital...n_Saudi_Arabia


Anyone carrying an amount of drugs for their personal use can be said to be a dealer


With one of the world’s highest rates of illegal drug use, particularly opium, it is not unknown for Iranian pilgrims to carry drugs for personal use while travelling to Saudi Arabia for the annual Haj pilgrimage in Mecca. Iranian media say many have been arrested after Saudi law enforcement officers found them to be possessing narcotics.
Officials in Iran have previously warned pilgrims that they could be hanged or beheaded if found carrying just one gram of illicit drugs in Saudi Arabia. They have advised users not to travel to the Haj before they have cured their addiction.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/wo...g-7848550.html

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It's clearly written down. When a government writes down that drug smugglers get executed and drug smugglers try to smuggle them anyway and get executed for it (drug smuggling isnt btw mentioned in the Quran either so where do you get off tying this to religion again?)
I already showed you. The crucifixions were done by an Islamic extremist group implementing SHARIA LAW.

BTW Do you agree drug dealers should be executed? Adulterers?

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then they fairly bought the ticket and took the ride. In your excitement to describe all the wonderful and humane ways to execute death penalty inmates I caught a tiny impression that, like the drone shots used to blow up people who have had no trial or hearing, you sleep peacefully in your belief that you are somehow different because you do the same thing more humanely.
I don't personally subscribe to the death penalty except in the most extreme unrepented cases of murder, even then Im still undecided and unsettled at any method of execution. I also stated before, and you read it, I find it unsettling that any innocent person should die as a result of war. These things happen in all wars. What is happening in Afghanistan is a continued war with Taliban forces.

If a criminal comes out with a gun instead of surrendering and is a threat to the police and innocents then yes I support the necessary actions to immediately stop that person. Do I find it unsettling that person died? Yes

Same goes for the armed Taliban/Al Quada forces in Afghanistan and other areas. I find it bothersome that their deaths happened and had they surrendered so they can have a trial, their deaths would not have happened during a war. As I said, same thing happened when we fought Nazi Germany. Some gave up and others did not

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Now you have wandered away from the truth again. I am not sure if your statements are deliberate lies or if you really are unaware of what happened to captured German officers on the battlefield. Where did you say you are from? Public school education you said? Skipped history lessons? German officers or suspected spies were tied to a post, a black cloth was put over their head, a group of men lined up in front of them, and they were shot. It's posted in black and white all over utube dude. I considered copying and pasting the links but will leave you to google "execution of german officers" if you wish to educate yourself and you can choose to check for yourself or not. It's pretty graphic and I suspect some of your peers right here on this site may know anyway so you are free to educate yourself on your own time.
So there were no German POWs eh? If any were summarily executed the way you said, that was against the geneva convention


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At least 30 members of an Afghan wedding party were killed and many more wounded when a U.S. plane bombed a village in the central province of Uruzgan today, Afghan officials and residents said.
Right, that was a terrible mistake. Everyone involved admitted as much
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The bombing happened today in a village in the rugged, mountainous region 175 km (105 miles) northeast of the southern city of Kandahar, residents said.
They told the local Pashtu service of the BBC at least 120 people had been either killed or wounded.
A Defence Ministry official said celebrants were firing into the air, as is traditional in Pashtun weddings.
"There was no-one to help last night," resident Abdul Saboor told the BBC. "We managed to transfer some of the wounded to Kandahar in the morning. Some of the foreigners' choppers also came to help.
"There are no Taliban or al Qaeda or Arabs here. These people were all civilians, women and children."
Yep, but again these were terrible mistakes and we own up to them and investigate them to make sure they don't happen again
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Show me where (I) or any Muslim you know support crucifixion of other Muslims who are doing the necessary to fight Al'Qaeda. Otherwise don't interpret my comments about you applying these actions to all Muslims (which is personally directed towards you) as support for what happened to those brave Muslims who gave their lives protecting YOU.
YOU! How? By refusing to do as I suggested and stand up AGAINST what was reported on this thread. Instead you just post stuff what Americans have done or Christians have done. When I suggested you would do better to stand up against it you became even more belligerent. You justified as "they do things different over there"

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You don't like Jews do you?

I highly resent it when a Jew gets away with cold-blooded murder of an unarmed American woman without comment just because he is a Jew.
I resent it when ANYONE does...why does it have to be "jews"? How comes Jews are "My buddies" but not yours?

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So no I do not like that one nor do I like the position of the Jewish government or courts afterwards when they basically gave her family the finger.
no no, you said "About your jewish buddies: "

My Jewish buddies? You don't like Jews? Do you have any Jewish buddies? You did not say :"Your buddies in the Israeli government" which would have been pretty asinine as if I know anyone in the Israeli government, nor did you specify that one soldier, as if I knew him too

You generically says "Jews"
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