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Old 01-15-2013, 06:56 PM
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Re: Dropped By & Somewhat Dismayed But Not Surpris

I have been away from the computer for a few hours and have enjoyed catching up on this thread. Some great discussion in it.

Even though I believe Ron is dead wrong in his take on this it is good to see him posting and bringing some articulate discussion to the table.

The premise of Ron's objection to a preacher caught in moral failure being discussed is the scriptures detailing how such a person should be treated in their church.

It is clear those instructions were given for dealing with a person's specific situation by the church he was associated with. By church I don't think it means a specific congregation but it could be that or even a regional or wider covering he might be subject to.

However those instructions were regarding determining the sinful persons status. They were to be given a course of action to make things right then if they did not follow that they were to be cast out of the church.

Nowhere do I see instructions for the "church" outside of that person's immediate congregation not to discuss the situation or be made aware of it.
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"We did not wear uniforms. The lady workers dressed in the current fashions of the day, ...silks...satins...jewels or whatever they happened to possess. They were very smartly turned out, so that they made an impressive appearance on the streets where a large part of our work was conducted in the early years.

"It was not until long after, when former Holiness preachers had become part of us, that strict plainness of dress began to be taught.

"Although Entire Sanctification was preached at the beginning of the Movement, it was from a Wesleyan viewpoint, and had in it very little of the later Holiness Movement characteristics. Nothing was ever said about apparel, for everyone was so taken up with the Lord that mode of dress seemingly never occurred to any of us."

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