Way to take a scripture out of context! There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.
Sorry but your entire interpretation and view of scripture and the plan of God is flawed. One of the most dangerous heresies circling today.
Unconditional eternal security is one of the most diabolical ungodly false doctrines being preached today. John said 'he that committeth(practices)sin is of the devil.' 1Jn.3:8 Unrepented-unconfessed sin will NOT be covered by the blood of Christ that is a lie. Repentance is the antedote for sin. This notion that saved men can habitually live a lifestyle of sin is mockery of the grace of God that teaches us to deny ungodliness. Titus 2:11 Paul plainly declares "Shall we continue in sin that grace may abound? GOD FORBID!" Rom. 6:1
Unconditional eternal security is one of the most diabolical ungodly false doctrines being preached today. John said 'he that committeth(practices)sin is of the devil.' 1Jn.3:8 Unrepented-unconfessed sin will NOT be covered by the blood of Christ that is a lie. Repentance is the antedote for sin. This notion that saved men can habitually live a lifestyle of sin is mockery of the grace of God that teaches us to deny ungodliness. Titus 2:11 Paul plainly declares "Shall we continue in sin that grace may abound? GOD FORBID!" Rom. 6:1
Score one for the Elder! One of the few times we agree!
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Unconditional eternal security is one of the most diabolical ungodly false doctrines being preached today. John said 'he that committeth(practices)sin is of the devil.' 1Jn.3:8 Unrepented-unconfessed sin will NOT be covered by the blood of Christ that is a lie. Repentance is the antedote for sin. This notion that saved men can habitually live a lifestyle of sin is mockery of the grace of God that teaches us to deny ungodliness. Titus 2:11 Paul plainly declares "Shall we continue in sin that grace may abound? GOD FORBID!" Rom. 6:1
Way to take a scripture out of context! There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.
Sorry but your entire interpretation and view of scripture and the plan of God is flawed. One of the most dangerous heresies circling today.
Therefore leaving the principles of the doctrine of Christ, let us go on unto perfection; not laying again the foundation of repentance from dead works, and of faith toward God,2 Of the doctrine of baptisms, and of laying on of hands, and of resurrection of the dead, and of eternal judgment.
Response posted by Crakjak:
What is this "perfection", it certainly is not what we can do by willpower or determination. It is the gospel of Paul, the apostle born out of season for the Gentiles and the final Good News, that we are made perfection thru the work of Christ.
"Whether we live in the reality of it or not, God has justified us. So you can either live in the reality: God sees you through the Person and work of Christ, or else you can roll on the floor, spending your days in self-comsumption (religious self-consumption is the ugliest kind), unnecessarily weeping and begging God to do something about your poor flesh that He already did 2,000 years ago". Martin Zender
You are a new creation in Christ. Wake up and smell the justification. This is the complete work of Christ, what we cannot do for ourselves, He has done. So, it is time to walk in it.
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Exactly!!! Yet, religion instructs us to never stop trying to earn it.
My friend, you know I love you. but you take me differently than what I said.... The ACT LIKE IT part of Holiness is a command by God to his children. His children are not given room to debate that part.
you may choose to suggest that those of us who preach Holiness this way are saying that we are forcing people to "earn salvation" but that does not undo the command by God to BE HOLY.
And as others have pointed out, John clearly states that those who live a lifestyle of sin are "of the devil".
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Unconditional eternal security is one of the most diabolical ungodly false doctrines being preached today. John said 'he that committeth(practices)sin is of the devil.' 1Jn.3:8 Unrepented-unconfessed sin will NOT be covered by the blood of Christ that is a lie. Repentance is the antedote for sin. This notion that saved men can habitually live a lifestyle of sin is mockery of the grace of God that teaches us to deny ungodliness. Titus 2:11 Paul plainly declares "Shall we continue in sin that grace may abound? GOD FORBID!" Rom. 6:1
I'm not arguing for a man made doctrine, I am arguing for the power of God, salvation and redemption thru the work of Christ.
All other efforts are vain and ineffective. Nor am I arguing for "...continuing in sin...", it is your doctrine that destines one to continue in sin, for it is a doctrine of human effort to stop sinning, when that is not possible. It is only when one understands that they are justified in Christ that they are empowered to stopping "habitually sinning". All sin is under the blood, otherwise, none have a chance to be saved. Of course we should recognize when we fall short, when we sin, but you do not fall in and out of grace, period.
Why do "Pentecostals" have revolving alter calls??? Simple, man cannot overcome sin, only Christ has done so. "...he that says he has not sin is a liar..." You know this is true, yet you promote a doctrine that denies the truth. The blood of Christ is the only sacrifice, there is no other, all your begging and repenting is vain. THE ONLY EFFECTIVE ANTIDOTE FOR SIN IS FAITH IN THE SHED BLOOD OF CHRIST.
You must embrace where all your sins are, under the blood, and then walk out the truth that you are set free. Then when you fail, you get up and declare, "...I AM THE RIGHTEOUS OF CHRIST, I AM ACCEPTED, I AM JUSTIFIED, GOD IS NOT COUNTING MY SINS AGAINST ME, THEREFORE, I WILL WALK IN HIS STRENGTH NOT MY OWN!!
__________________ For it is written, "As I live, says the Lord every knee shall bow to me, and every tongue shall give praise to God. (Romans 14:11- NASB)
My friend, you know I love you. but you take me differently than what I said.... The ACT LIKE IT part of Holiness is a command by God to his children. His children are not given room to debate that part.
you may choose to suggest that those of us who preach Holiness this way are saying that we are forcing people to "earn salvation" but that does not undo the command by God to BE HOLY.
And as others have pointed out, John clearly states that those who live a lifestyle of sin are "of the devil".
I love you, too. Please see my response to the Elder Epley. I do not embrace an immoral and sinful lifestyle.
__________________ For it is written, "As I live, says the Lord every knee shall bow to me, and every tongue shall give praise to God. (Romans 14:11- NASB)
Unconditional eternal security is one of the most diabolical ungodly false doctrines being preached today. John said 'he that committeth(practices)sin is of the devil.' 1Jn.3:8 Unrepented-unconfessed sin will NOT be covered by the blood of Christ that is a lie. Repentance is the antedote for sin. This notion that saved men can habitually live a lifestyle of sin is mockery of the grace of God that teaches us to deny ungodliness. Titus 2:11 Paul plainly declares "Shall we continue in sin that grace may abound? GOD FORBID!" Rom. 6:1
The full context of I John draws a distinction between those who "continue" in sin, "abide" in sin and those who because of their humanity fall on occasions. It's the practicing of sin, the continuing in sin, it's the abiding in sin that damns the soul. John also says in I John 2:1-2 "My dear children, I write this to you so that you will not sin. But if anybody does sin, we have an advocate with the Father—Jesus Christ, the Righteous One. He is the atoning sacrifice for our sins, and not only for ours but also for the sins of the whole world.
It's an acknowledgement that Christians sin. No one is perfectly obedient. It's why we all need God's grace. When Jesus died He didn't die just for my past. He died for all of my sins, past, present, future. It's not a license to go ahead and sin, no because one who is born of God does not abide or continues in sin. But I can assure I most certainly will sin again between now and standing before Jesus face to face. I live in security knowing that I have an Advocate with the Father pleading my case and reminding the Judge that my fine has been paid in full.
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When a newspaper posed the question, "What's Wrong with the World?" G. K. Chesterton reputedly wrote a brief letter in response: "Dear Sirs: I am. Sincerely Yours, G. K. Chesterton." That is the attitude of someone who has grasped the message of Jesus.
The full context of I John draws a distinction between those who "continue" in sin, "abide" in sin and those who because of their humanity fall on occasions. It's the practicing of sin, the continuing in sin, it's the abiding in sin that damns the soul. John also says in I John 2:1-2 "My dear children, I write this to you so that you will not sin. But if anybody does sin, we have an advocate with the Father—Jesus Christ, the Righteous One. He is the atoning sacrifice for our sins, and not only for ours but also for the sins of the whole world.
It's an acknowledgement that Christians sin. No one is perfectly obedient. It's why we all need God's grace. When Jesus died He didn't die just for my past. He died for all of my sins, past, present, future. It's not a license to go ahead and sin, no because one who is born of God does not abide or continues in sin. But I can assure I most certainly will sin again between now and standing before Jesus face to face. I live in security knowing that I have an Advocate with the Father pleading my case and reminding the Judge that my fine has been paid in full.
__________________ For it is written, "As I live, says the Lord every knee shall bow to me, and every tongue shall give praise to God. (Romans 14:11- NASB)
Then said one unto him, Lord, are there few that be saved ? And he said unto them,24Strive to enter in at the strait gate: for many, I say unto you, will seek to enter in , and shall not be able . Luke 13:23-24
So Jesus said at least A FEW WILL BE SAVED.
Heaven's going to be sparsely populated. You and maybe a couple others?
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