Bombshell- Considering going back to the UPC

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Originally Posted by Michael Phelps

Thanks for the clarification.

I would submit that Paul taught a LOT of things that are not empasized in our churches today, such as "by grace you are saved thru faith, and that not of yourselves".....and "Not by works of righteousness that we are done, it is the gift of God"....that is the very antithesis of the doctrine of many Apostolic churches.

Paul also spoke about principles, and not specifics......there was no multi paged manual of all the things one could and couldn't do......the Pharisees created such drivel, but Paul spoke of being led of the Spirit...and talked of the weaker saints, and the obligation of the stronger saints to not create offense......he admitted that many things weren't sin, but they weren't expedient......but, he never put anyone in hell who did them.....

So, I would hve to say, to use the Apostle Paul as the example of legalism is misguided.

First, I would agree that Paul was not a legalist. But not in agreement with you. Paul certainly did teach a LOT of very narrow very clear things where there was no "wiggle room"

Second, I TEACH "by grace you are saved thru faith, and that not of yourselves".....and "Not by works of righteousness that we are done, it is the gift of God".... on a very regular bases as the adult Sunday School teacher.

I have regular meetings with my UPCI pastor to insure that these things are being taught. We are absolutly Water/Spirit in doctrine. These are very compatible things.