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Originally Posted by Shawn
you Make God out to sound worse than a thousand Hitlers. Is that who God is to you. In the New Testament did Jesus even once give us that impression.
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I guess it's possible I am "making God out to sound like a thousand Hitlers," however I am mostly just taking at face value what I read in the bible. Or rather, face value until the text directs or implies to do otherwise. Admittedly I have also been influenced by hundreds of pentecostal sermons, and a couple dozen books. But please inform me which of the following ought NOT be taken at face value. I'm sure there are one or two anomalies below, but surely not all of them "mean something else." Do they? Jesus speaking in all the below scriptures:
Matthew 25:41 Then He will also say to those on the left hand, "Depart from me you cursed, into the
everlasting fire prepared for the devil and his angels:"
(Nice touch here--an omniscient, omnipotent god didn't really *want* hell to be used for humans, but it just worked out that way none the less.)
Mat 25:46 "and these will go away into
everlasting punishment, but the righteous into eternal life."
Matthew 23:33 "Serpents, brood of vipers! How can you escape the condemnation of hell?"
[In movie True Lies, Jamie Lee Curtis asks Ahnold, "So did you kill anyone today?"
Ahnold: "Yes but they were ALL BAD."]
Mark 9:47 "And if your eye causes you to sin, pluck it out. It is better for you to enter the kingdom of God with one eye, rather than having two eyes,
to be cast into hell fire, where their worm does not die, and the fire is not quenched."
Jesus speaks to his church in Thyatira,
Rev. 2:23 ..."I will kill her children with death, and all the churches shall know that I am He who searches the minds and hearts...
(The above not necessarily eternal, but seems fairly violent, especially the
kill with death part.)
No, the Bible God is not like Hitler. Hitler never had the ability to torture and/or kill 1/3 of the population of the earth, as claimed here,
Rev 9:15 So the four angels, who had been prepared for the hour and day and month and year, were released to kill a third of mankind.
And Hitler never had the power to so accurately measure how much blood he had spilled.
Rev. 14:19 So the angel thrust his sickle into the earth and gathered the vine of the earth, and threw it into the great winepress of the wrath of God. 20 And the winepress was trampled outside the city, and blood came out of the winepress, up to the horses' bridles, for one thousand six hundred furlongs.
Matthew 10:28
"and do not fear those who kill the body but cannot kill the soul. But rather fear Him who is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.
--J.C.
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