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Old 08-05-2013, 07:12 PM
stephenroehm stephenroehm is offline
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Re: Human Effort In Salvation?

Luke 16:19-31

There was a certain rich man who was customarily clothed in purple and fine linen and making merry in luxury every day. And there was a certain beggar named Lazarus, who was laid at his gate, full of sores and desiring to be fed with the crumbs which fell from the rich man's table. But even the dogs came and licked his sores.

And it happened that the beggar died and was carried by the angels into Abraham's bosom. The rich one also died and was buried.

And in hell he lifted up his eyes, being in torments, and saw Abraham afar off, and Lazarus in his bosom. And he cried and said, "Father Abraham, have mercy on me and send Lazarus so that he may dip the tip of his finger in water and cool my tongue, for I am tormented in this flame."

But Abraham said, "Son, remember that you in your lifetime received your good things, and likewise Lazarus evil things. But now he is comforted and you are tormented. And besides all this, there is a great chasm fixed between you and us; so that they desiring to pass from here to you cannot, nor can they pass over to us from there."

And he said, "I beg you therefore, father, that you would send him to my father's house, for I have five brothers, so that he may testify to them, lest they also come into this place of torment."

Abraham said to him, "They have Moses and the Prophets, let them hear them."

And he said, "No, father Abraham, but if one should go to them from the dead, they would repent."

And he said to him, "If they do not hear Moses and the Prophets, they will not be persuaded, even though one rose from the dead."

It's too bad the rich man didn't know about the message you are teaching. It seems as if he couldn't get out of hades, though he wanted to badly. He couldn't even get a drop of water, let alone get across the chasm to Abraham's Bosom. It's been nice talking with you.
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