For those not for the UPCI, what org and why?

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Originally Posted by FlamingZword

Why would a person need a preacher to set the rules laid out and be kept in check? isn't that what parents are there for, if parents needs the preacher to do that then the parents have failed in their mission in raising their children.

When I was in the Military I learned a valuable lesson, the drill sergeant can force you to be disciplined but it is only outward disciple, likewise a preacher can cajole people into discipline, however the moment the preacher is not there the discipline disappears, real discipline is internal.

The only real discipline is self-discipline. The preacher is not going to be there when they are walking by a bar, or passing thru the liquor store.

Geez

Romans 10:14
How then shall they call on him in whom they have not believed? and how shall they believe in him of whom they have not heard? and how shall they hear without a preacher?


1 Cor 11:1-2
1Be ye followers of me, even as I also [am] of Christ.
2Now I praise you, brethren, that ye remember me in all things, and keep the ordinances, as I delivered [them] to you.


Eph 4:11-12
11And he gave some, apostles; and some, prophets; and some, evangelists; and some, pastors and teachers;
12For the perfecting of the saints, for the work of the ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ:

2 Tim 3:16-17
16All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:
17That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works.


Yea I say unto thee! Paul was just a mean jerk preacher telling people what to do!

1 Cor 6:18-20
18Flee fornication. Every sin that a man doeth is without the body; but he that committeth fornication sinneth against his own body.
19What? know ye not that your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost which is in you, which ye have of God, and ye are not your own?
20For ye are bought with a price: therefore glorify God in your body, and in your spirit, which are God's.


good grief.