Real tongues or fake tongues?

[renee819]

Prazaes, I no longer know what our discussion is about! We agree on most things, but you keep pushing the point that I think that we have to know if there is an interpreter or not before we can speak. When that isn't what I meant. We have to speak first. If we know that someone in the audience has the gift of interpretation, then you know that it will be interpreted. If you don't know, then the church prays that someone will be given the interpretation. And I have seen God use someone the first time.

Originally Posted by renee819

The man was preaching, he didn't speak in tongues as a message from God. If so then after he spoke in tongues then he should have waited for an interpretation. But it was for show.

Praxaes wrote

But if he DID wait and there was no interpretation, was he out of order for speaking in tongues?

NO! He had to speak first. It was left up to God and people being obedient to follow through.

Renee wrote,

The lady was praying for a persons healing. Paul says, if you pray or bless someone in tongues, how can a person in the room bless it, not knowing what you prayed

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Praxes wrote,

That does not mean you can't pray in tongues. In fact Paul said

1Co 14:14 For if I pray in a tongue, my spirit prays but my mind is unfruitful.
1Co 14:15 What am I to do? I will pray with my spirit, but I will pray with my mind also; I will sing praise with my spirit, but I will sing with my mind also.

You see? Paul does both

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You have got to put that whole passage in context.

1 Cor. 14:13 Wherefore let him that speaketh in an unknown tongue pray that he may interpret.
:14 For if I pray in an unknown tongue, my spirit prayeth, but my understanding is unfruitful.
:15 What is it then? I will pray with the spirit, and I will pray with the understanding also: I will sing with the spirit, and I will sing with the understanding also.
:16 Else when thou shalt bless with the spirit, how shall he that occupieth the room of the unlearned say Amen at thy giving of thanks, seeing he understandeth not what thou sayest?
:17 For thou verily givest thanks well, but the other is not edified.
:18 I thank my God, I speak with tongues more than ye all:
:19 Yet in the church I had rather speak five words with my understanding, that by my voice I might teach others also, than ten thousand words in an unknown tongue

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So where did Paul pray in tongues and sing in tongues? Seeing that he said, “Wherefore let him that speaketh in an unknown tongue pray that he may interpret.”
If he spoke in tongues more than all of them, and he insists that it be interpreted, then if he spoke all of those tongues in church, then there was a lot of interpreting going on. Or else he was praying and singing in tongues at home.
I could be wrong, but I believe if people are speaking in tongues and there is no interpretation, they are just “speaking into the air.”

1 Corinthians 14:9 So likewise ye, except ye utter by the tongue words easy to be understood, how shall it be known what is spoken? for ye shall speak into the air

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I would love to be wrong. Because it is easier to pray in tongues, (you don't even have to think, and the Spirit is praying the perfect prayer, because many times we don't know what to pray for)

But in English, you have to think. And I never was good at praying pretty prayers. And at times I have been prayed for, when the prayer itself blessed me, whether I received what we were praying for or not.
So when I pray, I flat out ask God to do what is needed, which turns out o be a short prayer. But I notice, that is also the way Jesus prayed as well as the apostles. Except for the Lords prayer.