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Old 09-24-2013, 03:05 PM
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Re: The doctrine of subsequence

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From initial salvation they can and should desire to but they cannot because of the flesh still wars within them.
So then a person who is 'saved' is not being led of the spirit?

A person who is 'justified' and 'right with God' is not being led of the spirit?

A person who is right with God, has repented of their sins, is justified... is not 'submitted to God'? So they are still in rebellion against God?

Wouldn't that mean they are still... sinners? IE living in rebellion against God, have not obeyed God, do not obey God...

In fact CANNOT obey God, CANNOT submit to God until God does something in them?
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