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Originally Posted by Esaias
So then a person who is 'saved' is not being led of the spirit?
A person who is 'justified' and 'right with God' is not being led of the spirit?
A person who is right with God, has repented of their sins, is justified... is not 'submitted to God'? So they are still in rebellion against God?
Wouldn't that mean they are still... sinners? IE living in rebellion against God, have not obeyed God, do not obey God...
In fact CANNOT obey God, CANNOT submit to God until God does something in them?
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I never said that were not being led by the Spirit rather I said they were not WALKING (continually) in the Spirit. I also never said that they were in rebellion but I did say that their nature was still carnal and not subject to the law of God (Paul also said this) and therefore at wars against the Spirit. Total submission comes when the flesh is destroyed at the point of sanctification then we can experience continual walking in the Spirit.