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Originally Posted by Nitehawk013
How far does your assurance go?
Saved while being a drunk? Saved while beating your wife daily? Saved raping children? Saved being a theif? Saved watching porn all the time? Saved while coming out of the closet as a gay?
See, if your assurance is based only on "faith" and obediance or any works then you get this "once saved always saved, you can live a godless heathen scumbag lifestyle and yet still get to heaven" nonsense. James tells us pretty straight that we are judged and justified by what we DO, not simply mental ascent to an idea. REAL FAITH IS the action of obediance and works. If you don't show works and practice obediance...you don't have faith. Your faith is a fraud is actions don't show it.
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Wait a minute - think about how you come across. You've got no compassion at all. You do not know me, how I live, etc. etc.
Matthew 5:46-48- And if you love those who love you, what good is that? Are not even the tax collectors doing that? And if you greet [Respect] only your brothers, what are you doing more than others? Do not even pagans do that? But I say unto you: be perfect therefore as your heavenly Father is perfect.
When you love those that believe just like you, think just like you, look just like you, dress like you do, your fine. But if they are ANY different, it gives you a license to be mean, hateful, and come across in a rude manner.
When people believe, think, and dress JUST LIKE you do, your respectful, but if they are different than you, it gives you a license to act like a jerk and come across in mean hateful manner. It takes more Holy ghost to show compassion, care to someone that is different than you. Keep on hanging out with the exact same people, its easy to be a Christian then. Start dialoguing [if you will] to different people and we see just how deep, spiritual, and Christian you really are.
I'll tell you what - I will wait until I have absolutely no more issues, I am perfect, dress just like you, talk just like you, believe just like you, think just like you, come across just like you, control people just like you, get rid of all issues, then I will come and attend your church, because your too uncomfortable deal with the world's problems.
Remember - An apostolic church without a mission incarnating Christ's love and character to a world [people] in need [paying attention to what is around you] is not a real holiness church.
Finally, I feel like I am wasting my breadth.
Greg