Double Whammy

[hometown guy]

Originally Posted by seekerman

Not only is Jesus specifically saying that He's not God, He's giving yet another plan of salvation. I don't know anyone personally who follows this plan though, it's a difficult one.

Mat 19:16 And, behold, one came and said unto him, Good Master, what good thing shall I do, that I may have eternal life?
Mat 19:17 And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments.
Mat 19:18 He saith unto him, Which? Jesus said, Thou shalt do no murder, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness,
Mat 19:19 Honour thy father and thy mother: and, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.
Mat 19:20 The young man saith unto him, All these things have I kept from my youth up: what lack I yet?
Mat 19:21 Jesus said unto him, If thou wilt be perfect, go and sell that thou hast, and give to the poor, and thou shalt have treasure in heaven: and come and follow me.

So you think jesus is not "good"?

[hometown guy]

Sorry just read that this was already discussed .. Carry on

[Luke]

I am not saying that in this passage Jesus came out and said that He was God blatantly but at the same time He does not deny it.

[Esaias]

Originally Posted by seekerman

Stick with scripture. Jesus didn't claim to be God in the passage, simple as that.

I didn't say he did. So it's settled then, Jesus is not good, right?

[Abiding Now]

Originally Posted by seekerman

He's doing very well with that. The last seminar I attended had UPC ministers also attending who agree with his doctrine.

For the record, I don't completely agree with his view.

JH is just proof positive of the old sayin...First goes the standard and then goes the doctrine.

[seekerman]

Originally Posted by Esaias

I didn't say he did. So it's settled then, Jesus is not good, right?

It's settled then, God has a God, and God died?

[seekerman]

Originally Posted by Luke

I am not saying that in this passage Jesus came out and said that He was God blatantly but at the same time He does not deny it.

Nobody is saying He's God in the passage. Nothing to deny.

[Abiding Now]

Mat 1:20 But while he thought on these things, behold, the angel of the Lord appeared unto him in a dream, saying, Joseph, thou son of David, fear not to take unto thee Mary thy wife: for that which is conceived in her is of the Holy Ghost.

Puleeeze tell me how he wasn't God, if he was conceived of God.

[seekerman]

Originally Posted by Abiding Now

Mat 1:20 But while he thought on these things, behold, the angel of the Lord appeared unto him in a dream, saying, Joseph, thou son of David, fear not to take unto thee Mary thy wife: for that which is conceived in her is of the Holy Ghost.

Puleeeze tell me how he wasn't God, if he was conceived of God.

Simply because He was conceived of God doesn't make Him God anymore than God breathing into Adam made Adam God.

[Abiding Now]

2Pe 3:16 As also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction.