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Originally Posted by Praxeas
Uh..ok. So where do you find such a one who you know for a fact repented, was baptized in Jesus name but never spoke in tongues?
BTW those that believe in tongues DON'T teach what you just said..that IF someone repents and is baptized they will Have the Spirit and Speak in tongues but rather it's a promise to those that have repented and been baptized, a promise they can obtain for themselves
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1. You had to bring knowing into this. I can't in fact know whether anyone really repented. People lie and there is no test to tell whether someone truly repented or not. In fact there's very little I can actually know... However I believe we can trust most people when I comes to these matters. For example I trust you when u claim to be truly repented that you are. Could I be wrong well sure. But I don't know why you would actively distrust someone who claims to be truly repentant though... Oh never mind I do know why... Because it goes against what you believe the bible teaches and surely your interpretation can't be wrong...
2. Initial evidence doctrine teaches that everyone who repents and is baptized will receive the Holy Ghost and that they will speak in tongues upon receiving it.
It's funny that pentecostals believe that only other penyecostals ever actually repent because obviously the only reason someone that is baptized wouldn't receive the Holy Ghost and speak in tongues before death is if they weren't truly repentant. That's the only explanation they can offer and it's funny that it means only Pentecostals ever truly repent...