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Old 11-17-2013, 06:33 PM
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Re: Submission to a pastor

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After this keel hauling did you capitulate and NOT take time away from the church to be with your wife? Or did you stay true to her and actually step back from church business for a while?
If you DID capitulate, do you feel you were ultimately blessed for "not touching God's anointed" by not spending time with your wife when she needed it?

Do you feel that any current pastor is "God's anointed" in the same was that Saul was and thus should be 100% 'submitted' to until such a time that God Himself deals with him?

Do you feel David was wrong be fleeing Saul even though Saul was still "God's anointed"? Should David had stayed and let Saul do what he would have to David, trusting that God would have protected him and ultimately blessed him for staying faithful and "submitting" to King Saul?
I had already stepped down, and did not step back up, until sometime after my daughter was born, and he was gone (And by the way, I wasn't asked or told to step back up, either, so there wasn't a conflict. He just wanted to vent his spleen at me for my decision).

Who is and who isn't God's anointed is God's business. Everyone filled with the Holy Spirit is anointed, generally speaking. However, there are people who are called and chosen specifically by God for some mission in the Kingdom. If they are so called and chosen, it's no different than Saul or David. God picked them. To argue that is to have a beef with God.

I believe submission within the realm of authority granted by God is expected and ought to be given. Directions to sin, do something unethical, break a vow, damage family, or something else otherwise proven to be un-Biblical requires no submission.

I do not judge David's actions as righteous or not. They happened. I don't blame David one bit. But remember, Jonathan had a spear thrown at him, too, and he stayed, and it cost him his life.

Do we judge Jonathan for staying obedient to his father, even when he knew Saul was lost and had the kingdom taken from him by God?
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