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02-23-2014, 05:08 PM
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Re: End Time Army of Women Preachers Psalms 68:11
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Originally Posted by Sister Alvear
He did not write that..he quoted it from a letter sent to him...
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Oh yeah that old letter that was quoting the non-existent Talmund...
"This decline in the number of knowledgeable Jews seems to have been a decisive factor in Rabbi Judah the Prince's decision around the year 200 C.E. to record in writing the Oral Law..."
http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/..._&_mishna.html
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02-23-2014, 05:09 PM
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Re: End Time Army of Women Preachers Psalms 68:11
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I thank my God , I speak... (he was not quoting a letter, a letter does not speak in unknown tongues)
1Co 14:18 I thank my God, I speak with tongues more than ye all:
I (Paul not a letter) speak five words...
1Co 14:19 Yet in the church I had rather speak five words with my understanding, that by my voice I might teach others also, than ten thousand words in an unknown tongue.
I write unto you, (not a letter you wrote)
1Co 14:37 If any man think himself to be a prophet, or spiritual, let him acknowledge that the things that I write unto you are the commandments of the Lord.
1Co 14:38 But if any man be ignorant, let him be ignorant.
It was Paul who gave the prohibition for a woman to speak/preach in the church, not a letter someone else wrote.
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1Co 14:34 Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience, as also saith the law.
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I think you are confusing an emotional subject with facts...
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02-23-2014, 05:10 PM
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Re: End Time Army of Women Preachers Psalms 68:11
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Again, the argument isn't specifically about who, but about being a colaborer. Whether Luke preached or not doesn't matter to me.
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That is apparent...
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02-23-2014, 05:19 PM
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Re: End Time Army of Women Preachers Psalms 68:11
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Your colleagues are arguing that Luke, while an apostle, wasn't a preacher because scripture doesn't mention him preaching. Neither was Barnabus noted to ever have preached, yet he was an apostle as well.
But teachers preaching? Is that what you allow female Sunday School teachers to do? And now you are admitting that prophets preach?? That goes against many other posts where you scream that prophesying isn't preaching. Prophets prophesy, they don't preach, remember? You and Pliny and RJR have all posted that.
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Please demonstrate who said Luke was an Apostle.
Please demonstrate where Barnabas was an Apostle.
Please don't put words in my mouth. You asked who co-laborers were that did not preach. I gave you Luke, the companion of Paul. You have failed to provided evidence for his preaching and have said you don't care about Luke. Now you are misrepresenting what I said so please demonstrate where I or anyone else said Luke was an Apostle.
It has also been said that women are to be silent in the church and not usurp authority over man while acknowledging there are some exceptions to women being silent. Such as the elderly ladies are to teach the younger ladies. Also, when there is genuine pneumatic endowment.
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02-23-2014, 05:21 PM
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Re: End Time Army of Women Preachers Psalms 68:11
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Originally Posted by Sasha
One can preach without using scripture. Jesus did it all the time. Often He told parables and taught the lesson that resulted. His teaching became scripture, they weren't scripture to begin with.
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Seriously? Jesus is God and what He says is God-Breathed, that is the very definition of scripture.
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02-23-2014, 05:21 PM
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Re: End Time Army of Women Preachers Psalms 68:11
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Originally Posted by MissBrattified
It's duly noted that YOU didn't respond with an explanation either.
I'm just asking about consistency. If a literal view is taken, it must be applied consistently. Do you take the same stance on single men in the ministry that you do on women in the ministry? If not, why not?
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Good luck getting an honest answer because the only honest answer exposes the hypocrisy and the almost misogynist mindset that permeates the anti-woman preacher theology.
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02-23-2014, 05:28 PM
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Re: End Time Army of Women Preachers Psalms 68:11
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Originally Posted by Pliny
Seriously? Jesus is God and what He says is God-Breathed, that is the very definition of scripture.
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BUT the definition given already here as to what Preaching is, was to EXEGETE already existing scriptures....
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Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
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- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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02-23-2014, 05:32 PM
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Re: End Time Army of Women Preachers Psalms 68:11
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BUT the definition given already here as to what Preaching is, was to EXEGETE already existing scriptures....
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So... You don't think God has a right to give scripture... Straw man alert!
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02-23-2014, 05:33 PM
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Re: End Time Army of Women Preachers Psalms 68:11
Ultra femi nazi? Now that is funny as I am on the opposite pole from such a lifestyle. In fact, I am an old fashioned redneck girl with a very sharp mind and memory and a heritage that allows me to be submissive to my husband and fill my place in our home and marriage, while still exercising the gifts and talents that God placed in my life long before I got married. Of course, it takes a real Godly man secure in his own place in God's order to allow his wife to be truly as much a functioning member of the body of Christ and an heir together of the grace of life. But you wouldn't know anything about that.
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02-23-2014, 05:37 PM
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Re: End Time Army of Women Preachers Psalms 68:11
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Originally Posted by Pliny
So... You don't think God has a right to give scripture... Straw man alert!
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First of all, I never said "God does not have a right to GIVE scriptures"
Second, what you just posted was a Strawman.
Third, please deal with the point I made and not instead replace it with your own made up argument I did NOT make.
I'll repeat it for you, the definition of PREACH was given here to mean someone who EXEGETES already existing scriptures.
If we are now gonna change that definition to someone that introduces NEW scriptures then we have a serious problem with adding to the Word of God by modern day "Preachers"
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Let it be understood that Apostolic Friends Forum is an Apostolic Forum.
Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
- There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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