Isn’t John 3:5 and Mathew 3:11 the same?

[RJR]

Originally Posted by justlookin

I asked you the same question for several posts now. I'll try once more.

Are you suggesting that Spirit birth doesn't produce a child of God without also the birth of water, i.e, baptism? If so, what does the birth of the Spirit produce, if not a child of God, and does your answer agree with Jesus teaching concerning Spirit birth?

I am saying that there is more to one being born again than receiving the Holy Ghost as in the experience of Cornelius. If that is not the example you were referencing please show me which passage you had in mind.

I thought you had something we needed? Oh, and don't forget 1John 5:8!