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Old 07-18-2014, 11:00 PM
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Re: All Trinitarians are Lost!!!!!!!!!!!

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Not it isn't. Both are done in Jesus' name. INVOCATION is the Greek term used in Acts 22:16. And we actually see the name invoked with Paul casting out a devil. We do not have an invocation recorded during a baptism. Just commands to do it. So when we see how invocation is accomplished with the example of ANOTHER instance where invoking is involved, we see the command given by the minister saying "in the name of Jesus." This is invocation.

Another instance is the exorcists who invoked the name because they heard Paul do it. But it stands as ONE of the SEVERAL instances where invocation is done IN THE NAME showing us how baptism must have been done.

Another is Peter and John's healing of the cripple.

Act 3:6 KJV Then Peter said, Silver and gold have I none; but such as I have give I thee: In the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth rise up and walk.

Act 16:18 KJV And this did she many days. But Paul, being grieved, turned and said to the spirit, I command thee in the name of Jesus Christ to come out of her. And he came out the same hour.



How do you know? And actually it is not a case of God hanging one's salvation, but rather God MOVING AND EFFECTING as response to invocation. If not, why heal the cripple that way, or why cast out a devil that way? Why did the casting out hang upon the invocation? Why the healing?

It is not God being petty, but rather responded to what He commanded people to do in order for Him to respond.



I never said that. I never once said someone is lost or whatever. Those things I leave to God to judge. But you on the other hand JUDGE in from the opposite perspective. You judged that they are saved while I won't judge that they're not. We cannot judge either way.

I leave that alone. Leave it up to God, like I do. JUST DO WHAT HE SAID DO, and let's stop trying to ascertain hypotheticals. What is it with these hypotheticals that we JUST HAVE TO ANSWER? Whatever God does with souls is up to Him. But if we stand on the WORD ALONE, we can only invoke the name as ministers in baptisms. What's the big deal? Why do you just HAVE TO KNOW if someone is saved otherwise or not? Just simply do what the book says and that's it. Phew. lol



Whatever. Changes nothing. We can analyze for the purpose of allowance for others to be saved until the cows come home. If they're saved, great! But I'm not wasting my time on hypotheticals but just doing what the book said in the way it said to do it.
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