Social drinking?

[Sean]

Thats a BIG FAT SIN also!!!

[Truthseeker]

Originally Posted by AR Pastor

I am amazed at what is now excepted by those claiming to be Holy Ghost filled.

We should be amazed how many are biblically illiterate.

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by Sean

19 Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness,

20 Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies,

21 Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.



Okay, what I am saying is if DRUNKENNESS(sin) will get you in hell, it all starts with a drink(little sin)....


Then lust(thinking of sinning) causes immorality(sin)


Therefore if you even think of touching something that will Biblically put you in hell, why take a chance.

Doesn't say it's a sin to drink wine. A little drink is not a little sin. That's catholic teaching that there are little sins and big sins.

You are changing the topic again. We are not discussing lust

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by AR Pastor

Not everyone. I will not take anything with alcohol in it.

Do you read the label on everything?

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by Sean

19 Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication(STARTS WITH A THOUGHT AND 1 ACTION), uncleanness, lasciviousness,

20 Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies,

21 Envyings, murders, drunkenness(STARTS WITH A THOUGHT AND 1 DRINK), revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.


Paul lumps drinking with all the other works of the flesh here...

No he doesn't.

You are equivocating. He said Drunkenness not "Drinking". You are adding to the word of God because it does not support your beliefs and that should be a bigger sin than all the little sins you mentioned

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by Sean

If you are are a Christian that drinks, you can kiss your inward testimony and outward testimony to the world..... GOODBYE

Our Lord Jesus, and the sinners of this world have higher expectations of us than you realize!

Only in the eyes of a legalist.

It's a man made legalistic law that says to drink any amount of wine is a sin. You have no scriptures so you have to resort to these sort of ad hoc arguments

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by houston

Getting drunk does start with one drink. The times that I have been drunk were because that was my objective.

Getting fat starts with one hamburger. Gluttony is a sin therefore eating a hamburger is a sin

That's unfortunately how Sean's reasoning goes. It's so full of logical fallacies it's not even funny.

[Truthseeker]

Paul taught to not drink wine in excess, that's apostolic!!!

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by Truthseeker

We should be amazed how many are biblically illiterate.

You'd be amazed at how many food items have alcohol in them...and most don't know

http://patch.com/new-york/whiteplain...f#.U_0oMKOOo8k

You would be surprised at the number of packaged and already cooked foods that contain small amounts of alcohol, including many specialty foods found in delicatessen or gourmet shops. Pure vanilla and almond extract, and some brands of Dijon mustard are examples. Marinara sauce with wine, whipped cream and even fruit cake can all pose problems. For many of us this is not an issue. Adding “a little something extra” can make any meal special, especially during the holidays.

Contrary to popular belief, alcohol does not evaporate when heated. Studies have shown that as much as two-thirds of it still exists after 20 minutes of cooking. The amount of alcohol that burns off depends on the cooking method used and how long the alcohol is cooked. When added after cooking, 100% of the alcoholic content remains.

It is critical to read all labels, but as a general rule, it is a good idea to avoid the following ingredients:

• Pure or artificial flavor extracts such as vanilla, rum, and almond
• Cooking wines
• Malt vinegar, wine vinegar
• Some brands of dijon mustard
• Many sauces such as béarnaise or bordelaise use wine in preparation
• Fondues
• Desserts such as liqueur filled chocolates, cherries jubilee, mousse, flambé desserts, some pastries or cakes such as black forest or fruit cake
• Wine flavored cheeses or pates
• Non-alcoholic or de-alcoholized beers or wines my contain trace amounts
• Cooking spray

[Praxeas]

And more

http://www.minicklaw.com/food-or-dri...es-of-alcohol/

Because of this, it is important to follow the steps listed above and avoid any of the following items which may contain trace amounts of alcohol:

• Mouthwash
• Honey buns
• Hot sauces
• Sugarless gums (alcohol is a sweetener)
• Inhalers
• Hand sanitizers
• Anti-bacterial soap
• Household cleaning products (bleach, dish washing soap, glue, laundry detergent, air fresheners)
• Windshield wiper fluid
• Energy drinks
• Protein Bars
• Vitamins
• “Alcohol free” beer or wine
• Foods cooked with or contained with alcohol
• Hygiene products (deodorant sprays, after shave, perfume, body sprays, toothpaste, cosmetics, skin applicants, mouthwash, insect repellent)
• Medicines (suppressants, decongestants, antihistamines, sleeping aids, etc.)
• Ripe fruit
• Fermented soda drinks
• Chewing tobacco/dip (fruit flavors)
• Over the counter/prescription drugs (consult pharmacist)

Although this is a large list, this is by no means a comprehensive list of all the different foods, drinks, or medicines that may contain traces of alcohol. If you are in doubt about whether an item may contain trace amounts of alcohol that could cause you to fail a test, do not eat, drink, or ingest that item. If you have run into trouble by failing an alcohol test due to traces amounts of alcohol from a food, drink, or medicine, don’t hesitate to Contact Us at Minick Law in order to set up a free consultation to determine how we can help you resolve your case.