Social drinking?

[KeptByTheWord]

I don't have a problem with the understanding that in the culture 2000 years ago that wine was a staple, as important as water because of their inability to preserve food, and to have clean drinking water. I don't have a problem believing that Jesus partook of wine, or that Paul advised Timothy to drink wine for his stomach ailments, or even that some of the church members were getting too tipsy in the Corinthian church, and Paul advised them to drink at home, and not at church. Wine was part of their culture, and even a necessity it seems.

Today that is not the case. We don't need to drink wine to purify our water, or to help with our stomach ailments, because there are other options open to us. Today, because of the problem with the alcohol, addiction, and the door that alcohol opens that is hard to close - we choose not to drink, simply because we know that alcohol starts on a slippery slope. Since it is not a necessity to our way of life, we just avoid it.

[endtimer]

Originally Posted by KeptByTheWord

I don't have a problem with the understanding that in the culture 2000 years ago that wine was a staple, as important as water because of their inability to preserve food, and to have clean drinking water. I don't have a problem believing that Jesus partook of wine, or that Paul advised Timothy to drink wine for his stomach ailments, or even that some of the church members were getting too tipsy in the Corinthian church, and Paul advised them to drink at home, and not at church. Wine was part of their culture, and even a necessity it seems. Today that is not the case. We don't need to drink wine to purify our water, or to help with our stomach ailments, because there are other options open to us. Today, because of the problem with the alcohol, addiction, and the door that alcohol opens that is hard to close - we choose not to drink, simply because we know that alcohol starts on a slippery slope. Since it is not a necessity to our way of life, we just avoid it.

Good post. This is a subject of what is expedient and not what is law. You make valid points as to why you prefer not to drink alcoholic beverages. As a diet conscious man, I would make some of the same points regarding a high calorie/ empty calorie diet.

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by KeptByTheWord

I don't have a problem with the understanding that in the culture 2000 years ago that wine was a staple, as important as water because of their inability to preserve food, and to have clean drinking water. I don't have a problem believing that Jesus partook of wine, or that Paul advised Timothy to drink wine for his stomach ailments, or even that some of the church members were getting too tipsy in the Corinthian church, and Paul advised them to drink at home, and not at church. Wine was part of their culture, and even a necessity it seems.

Today that is not the case. We don't need to drink wine to purify our water, or to help with our stomach ailments, because there are other options open to us. Today, because of the problem with the alcohol, addiction, and the door that alcohol opens that is hard to close - we choose not to drink, simply because we know that alcohol starts on a slippery slope. Since it is not a necessity to our way of life, we just avoid it.

I wish I could of said that.

[AR Pastor]

Well it is a little easier to understand some of the crazy thought one reads here now that I know that part of the people are drunks.

[KeptByTheWord]

Originally Posted by endtimer

Good post. This is a subject of what is expedient and not what is law. You make valid points as to why you prefer not to drink alcoholic beverages. As a diet conscious man, I would make some of the same points regarding a high calorie/ empty calorie diet.

I would feel the same too about gluttony... some may consider it expedient, but it is better not to.

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

I wish I could of said that.

.... glad to know we are agreed

[KeptByTheWord]

Originally Posted by AR Pastor

Well it is a little easier to understand some of the crazy thought one reads here now that I know that part of the people are drunks.

I don't recall any of the posters on this thread saying that they get drunk.. maybe a drink or two, but not drunk!

[endtimer]

Originally Posted by AR Pastor

Well it is a little easier to understand some of the crazy thought one reads here now that I know that part of the people are drunks.

Well.... with all due respect, brother, if you want be taken seriously, please refrain from such ridiculous statements as this. No body here has offered you any kind of evidence that they are drunks.

[AR Pastor]

Originally Posted by endtimer

Well.... with all due respect, brother, if you want be taken seriously, please refrain from such ridiculous statements as this. No body here has offered you any kind of evidence that they are drunks.

After what I have read on this forum there are very few here that I care what the think. There are a few real Christians here but very few. If you drink alcohol you are a sinner.

I you drink one drink you are on your way to being drunk.

I will continue to read and post as I wish if you don't like my post don't read them. Thanks

[Jermyn Davidson]

Originally Posted by KeptByTheWord

I would feel the same too about gluttony... some may consider it expedient, but it is better not to.

Gluttony is not in the same category.

It is a sin to over-eat. For many people, they practice a lifestyle of sin, similar to homosexuals.

It is not a sin to drink a little wine.

It is a sin to over-eat and it is a sin to have gay sex. The two go hand in hand.

[jediwill83]

Obviously our definitions of "drunks" differ not surprisingly.