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Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple
It looks to me more like Evangelicals explain away Acts and redefine John.
Do we need evidence of it outside the Bible? Absolutely not! That's why we are called "Apostolic". Anything OUTSIDE the Bible or speaking different than whats in it is heretical.
And when you use the terms water/spirit in relation to salvation have you never heard of the Catholic Church? That is precisely what they have always believed. Altho they approach it from a wrong perspective (baptizing infants and confirmation ritual) it originally came from Jesus teaching on being born of water and spirit.
The Apostolic foundation is found ONLY among Oneness Pentecostal groups today. I have searched the Bible now on this very matter for the last 36 years on the matter as one starting out from an Evangelical beginning. None of the Evangelical groups are patterned after the Acts and preaching of the Apostles.
It was because I compared the teachings of Evangelical groups like I was part of with that of the Apostles that I came to separate from them. They were false teachers offering salvation a different way.
Now as to the philosophy and traditions that have come up among them much of it no doubt is merely the doctrine of men.
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You made all my points.
OPs totally misunderstand the basic message of scripture, thus think they are the only true church and have no witness in history because no one prior to the 20th century had their unique private interpretation.
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