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Old 10-23-2014, 10:26 AM
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i have a comment.

I absolutly, unaquivically do not want to be a futurist....evenificantspellhalfofit.


i am however afraid that i am... and I think this is far more likely than some technilogical chip etc.
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Old 10-23-2014, 11:19 AM
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Just whatever you choose to believe in life, just remember..Moses is NOT Jesus....
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Old 10-23-2014, 11:23 AM
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Just whatever you choose to believe in life, just remember..Moses is NOT Jesus....
Moses foreshadowed Jesus.

Deu 18:15 KJV The LORD thy God will raise up unto thee a Prophet from the midst of thee, of thy brethren, like unto me; unto him ye shall hearken;
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I read all the parallels that you posted between Revelation and Exodus and it was good, but there are way many more than what you just quoted.

Perhaps you just wanted to give a few examples rather than a whole comparison.

One could probably go thru the whole book of Revelation and find almost a complete verse by verse parallel in Exodus.
Amen. I have not done that in such a detailed manner, but it should be done!
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Is it coincidence that Islamic eschatology is an anti-parallelism of Futurist eschatology?
No, it shows the error of both! lol. I mean, you are taking the KORAN to determine what Revelation is saying. What better way to confirm false doctrine? You base your proof on what the Koran says! Rather than go to the bible itself, which I did, you do something totally different, and almost blasphemous, really.


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I'm sure I can find many references to "trees" and show how it might make some spiritual sense for them being symbolic of people. It's eisegesis. Most Gentile Christians in the first century wouldn't have the book of Exodus. People think they had a Bible like ours. They didn't. Picture the early Gentile church walking around, each with a big bag on their backs filled with 66 scrolls. LOL
Wow, that is almost blasphemy to me. lol Hooboy. But if you want to go tot he Koran instead of the bible itself to learn about Revelation, feel free.

But I suspect you never even read the comparison in total. If you did, you would know what I am saying is true. It is self-evident when a person sees those comparisons.
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Your commentary on it just opens up the imagination to deeper illuminations.
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I love my LITERAL interpretation of scripture...I just want to hug it's neck...LOL

I am soooo glad I was taught the truth as a new convert. Thank you JESUS!
Yes, I imagine when you see Jesus I am sure you will see a lamb with seven eyes and horns like Rev. 5 says. And don't forget the big celestial red dragon in outer space with seven heads and ten horns. Oh, then you also have a monster rising out of the ocean with seven heads and ten horns as well. And, to boot, there s a prostitute on its back drinking blood!

Wait! There's more! There's fire-breathing prophets in Jerusalem, like human dragons. Plus, you will see TWO IN HEAVEN! You will see the Father on the throne with His Son in the form of that seven-eyed lamb sitting beside Him like Rev 5 shows the LAMB come to the one on the throne and in Rev 22 they sitting together on the throne.

I could go on and on with your face value reading. lol
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Mike...Moses is not Jesus....LOL
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Quite an imagination!
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Mike...Moses is not Jesus....LOL
I never said he was. No brainer. I said Moses foreshadowed Jesus. You disagree? You don't agree that Moses was correct when he said Jesus was like Moses?
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Re: Mark of the beast idea

Instead of throwing out one liners perhaps people could just state their position and then demonstrate it, as well as demonstrating how a contrary position is incorrect?

Although I am not a preterist, brother Mike is by and large correct in pointing out that the Apocalypse cannot be understood without understanding the language of spiritual symbolism employed in the scripture, and without being familiar with the OT especially the Pentateuch.

Everyone acknowledges there are symbols used in the Revelation, whether they are preterist, futurist, or historicist. Even hard core dispensationalist futurists admit for example that the Beast represents an earthly antichristian power - whether a man, an empire ("revived"?), a religious institution, or a conglomeration of all the above.

That Revelation has symbolism is not in dispute by anyone who made it past 3rd grade. What is disputed is the meaning of the symbolism.
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