How to Deal with Church Hurt

[Dante]

Originally Posted by Esaias

I see English isnt your native tongue. Either that or logic isnt your native thought process.

Michael said the closer one is to God the harder it would be to get offended. Namely because closeness to God produces less inclination to take offenses or reproaches personally.

It doesnt mean getting offended is impossible or a sin itself. And who in the world would say of a rapist "he offended me"? More like "he devastated me and violated me" not "he upset me".

Your extreme red herring betrays another agenda.

Stultus es mater stupri.

[KeptByTheWord]

I do believe that until we understand that suffering is an inherent part of the gospel message, our relationship with the Lord will never move past being a "babe on milk". If we want to mature and grow up in Christ, we must understand that suffering is part of the process and the lessons that we learn along the way will only serve to strengthen and mature us.

[Timmy]

Originally Posted by Esaias

What exactly are saints to do if their church is wallowing in false doctrine? . . . .

How would they know if a church teaches false doctrine? If you disagree with something your pastor says, who's right and who's wrong?

[good samaritan]

Originally Posted by Timmy

How would they know if a church teaches false doctrine? If you disagree with something your pastor says, who's right and who's wrong?

I think that it is good to disagree sometimes as long as it is solidly built upon scripture. Too many times people are coming to conclusions about God without searching the scripture. I encourage people to disagree with me if they have scriptural points, but most want to only give a opinion that is developed soley through personal philosophy.

I think that people should respect their elders, but not be led blindly. I don't want to be a yes man, but I want to be a person who will support truth. We need to be respectful, but no ignorant.

[Esaias]

Originally Posted by Timmy

How would they know if a church teaches false doctrine? If you disagree with something your pastor says, who's right and who's wrong?

Oh thats easy. Just consult AFF.

[Timmy]

Originally Posted by Esaias

Oh thats easy. Just consult AFF.

[Abiding Now]

Originally Posted by Esaias

Oh thats easy. Just consult AFF.

[ILG]

Originally Posted by Steve Epley

Getting hurt is part of the process. When we ask The Lord to be like Him then we must have fellowship with His sufferings. Truthfully even at our best we hurt and disappoint people. If we are not careful we expect more of others than we do ourselves. If we learn from our hurts we are better for it if not we have to have the same lesson again. I try to pass the test the first time. taking the test again ain't fun.

Getting hurt is definitely part of the process. We do all need to learn the lesson at some point. Sometimes you can remove yourself from a situation you don't need to be in, when those in authority are having trouble passing that test.

[Abiding Now]

Originally Posted by ILG

Getting hurt is definitely part of the process. We do all need to learn the lesson at some point. Sometimes you can remove yourself from a situation you don't need to be in, when those in authority are having trouble passing that test.

Could you explain the bolded?

[Ferd]

Originally Posted by Esaias

Does the Bible speak of the issue of "church hurt?" Maybe I'm wrong but seems to me "church hurt" is a modern phenomenon and therefore suspect.

of course it does! Paul wrote on more than one occasion of people in the church hurting HIM.

Alexander the coppersmith has done me much evil. The Lord will reward him according to his work.


So say they are of Appolos and some Paul.... I thank God I did not baptize any of you.... etc.

"I withstood him (Peter) to his face and called him a hypocrit in the congregation of the saints"


There was lots of stupid going on in the early church, because there are humans. Wherever you have people you have stupid. (Like Paul I am the chiefest of them... LOL)

When Jesus said "if you have faith the size of a grain of mustard seed, you can say to the sycamore tree be plucked up by the roots..." He was instructing his followers that people would lie on them. They would suffer hurt. Not physical pain of beatings etc, but the emotional kind. Peter said "increase our faith"

The subject is well covered in scripture.