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Originally Posted by Sean
Admit error, I blew up your theory that God was not tempted with 4 scriptures that you seem to struggle with!
Mike you just go ahead and try to override your KJV translators all you want. The bottom line is you feel you have the right to change the words in the KJV bible as you wish.
I only recommend to folks to read their KJV Bible. Then if they have a problem with a word, go find an old dictionary if at all possible. Try to get the exact meaning of the word in question in their Bible, in its actual KJV translation, as it actually reads.
This generation simply does not agree with the KJV. That is why they "rediscover" the so called "true meanings" with "outside" sources like I see these days.(including using the FAKE translations and biased commentaries and lexicons.)
I only discuss the KJV as the true Bible....the words "God was tempted" are the true meanings.
Your problem is not with me here, it is with the KJV Bible.
How dare ANYONE, remove a word out of their KJV Bible and replace it with another word of their preference!
Psalms 78:56...
Yet they tempted and provoked the most high God, and kept not his testimonies:
. Ps 78....Yet they tempted and provoked the most high God, and kept not his testimonies:
Exodus 17:7 And he called the name of the place Massah, and Meribah, because of the chiding of the children of Israel, and because they tempted the LORD, saying, Is the LORD among us, or not?
N.T.(GREEK) Heb 3:8 Harden not your hearts, as in the provocation, in the day of temptation in the wilderness:
9 When your fathers tempted me, proved me, and saw my works forty years.
10 Wherefore I was grieved with that generation, and said, They do alway err in their heart; and they have not known my ways.
It clearly says that God was tempted...do you dare change the words you dont like?
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Once again there is a HUGE difference between "They tested God" and "God was tempted to commit evil"
You guys are using one word that has several meanings as if it only has one meaning
ESV
Psa 78:56 Yet they tested and rebelled against the Most High God and did not keep his testimonies,
KJV
Psa 78:56 Yet they tempted and provoked the most high God, and kept not his testimonies:
Thats not the same as Temptations of the flesh
Mat 26:41 Watch and pray that you may not enter into temptation. The spirit indeed is willing, but the flesh is weak."
Jas 1:12 Blessed is the man who endures temptation, because having been approved, he will receive the crown of life which the Lord has promised to those who love Him.
Jas 1:13 Let no one being tempted say, I am tempted from God. For God is not tempted by evils, and He tempts no one.
Jas 1:14 But each one is tempted by his lusts, being drawn away and seduced by them.
Testing God is not the same thing as Man being tempted by the flesh. God was not Tempted by his own flesh to sin.
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Originally Posted by Sean
N.T.(GREEK) Heb 3:8 Harden not your hearts, as in the provocation, in the day of temptation in the wilderness:
9 When your fathers tempted me, proved me, and saw my works forty years. |
That's not Greek. That's English
Tempt
peirasmós; gen. peirasmoú, masc. noun from peirázō (G3985), to make trial of, try, tempt. Trial, temptation, a putting to the test, spoken of persons only. When God is the agent, peirasmós is for the purpose of proving someone, never for the purpose of causing him to fall. If it is the devil who tempts, then it is for the purpose of causing one to fall.
(I) Generally, trial of one's character (1Pe_4:12, "to try [or prove] you"). By implication, trial of one's virtue, temptation, solicitation to sin, especially from Satan (
Luk_4:13; 1Ti_6:9).
(II) Trial, temptation.
(A) A state of trial in which God brings His people through adversity and affliction in order to encourage and prove their faith and confidence in Him (
Mat_6:13;
Mat_26:41; Mar_14:38;
Luk_8:13;
Luk_11:4, "bring us not into a state of trial" [a.t.], lay not trials upon us;
Luk_22:40,
Luk_22:46; 1Co_10:13;
Jam_1:2,
Jam_1:12; 1Pe_1:6; 2Pe_2:9; Sept.:
Deu_7:19;
Deu_29:3). Hence used metonymically for adversity, affliction, sorrow (
Luk_22:28;
Act_20:19;
Gal_4:14;
Rev_3:10).
(B) In the opposite way, man "tempts" God by distrusting Him and complaining to Him (
Heb_3:8 quoted from
Psa_95:8; Sept.:
Exo_17:7;
Deu_9:22).
You are confusing "Being tempted to sin or do evil" with humans attempting to test God
Exo 20:20 Moses said to the people, "Do not fear, for God has come to test you, that the fear of him may be before you, that you may not sin."
Deu 6:16 "You shall not put the LORD your God to the test, as you tested him at Massah.
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