Re: Apostolic But Not Believing Jesus is The Fathe
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Originally Posted by Timmy
Oh, okay. So Jesus isn't God. Got it.
Whatever you say!
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Re: Apostolic But Not Believing Jesus is The Fathe
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Originally Posted by Timmy
You don't like logic, do you.
Nothing wrong with logic. Just something wrong with allowances for baggage.
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Re: Apostolic But Not Believing Jesus is The Fathe
There's a reason the Word did not make certain phrases.
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Re: Apostolic But Not Believing Jesus is The Fathe
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Originally Posted by Esaias
Sproul holds, I am sure, the "classical" view of God: God is perfect and eternal and therefore can undergo no change in anything pertaining to his nature or character. Thus God never acquires new information or new knowledge, never changes his mind, and does not age, experience changes in "feeling" etc ... and thus is "impassible".
This view owes more to Plato and Aristotle than Scripture, imo.
I lean more toward the open theism view of God's knowledge as opposed to the classical greek view which the early church adopted. The open view explains prayer, free will, God changing his mnd, etc better than the classical, blueprint view. Imo, if fits the scriptures better...not perfectly, but better.
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Re: Apostolic But Not Believing Jesus is The Fathe
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Originally Posted by Esaias
Sproul holds, I am sure, the "classical" view of God: God is perfect and eternal and therefore can undergo no change in anything pertaining to his nature or character. Thus God never acquires new information or new knowledge, never changes his mind, and does not age, experience changes in "feeling" etc ... and thus is "impassible".
This view owes more to Plato and Aristotle than Scripture, imo.
Not a fan of Sproul's teachings because I thoroughly dislike Calvinism. One of my favorite blog's belongs to Roger Olson, an Arminian.
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Re: Apostolic But Not Believing Jesus is The Fathe
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Originally Posted by mfblume
Nothing wrong with logic. Just something wrong with allowances for baggage.
Jesus is God incarnate. (Don't let the fancy wording fool you. That just means God became a human being named Jesus.) Jesus died. God incarnate died. God died.
That's logic. You don't like it for some reason.
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Re: Apostolic But Not Believing Jesus is The Fathe
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Originally Posted by Timmy
Jesus is God incarnate. (Don't let the fancy wording fool you. That just means God became a human being named Jesus.) Jesus died. God incarnate died. God died.
That's logic. You don't like it for some reason.
I essentially agree. But you miss the deal of baggage. the concept is not an issue of logic, but one thing leads to another and now you have Catholics who Mary mothered God, and therefore Mary must have been sinless and did not need the cross, and the next thing you know people are talking to Mary during prayer more than to The Lord. And that's just ONE avenue.
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Re: Apostolic But Not Believing Jesus is The Fathe
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Originally Posted by mfblume
I essentially agree. But you miss the deal of baggage. the concept is not an issue of logic, but one thing leads to another and now you have Catholics who Mary mothered God, and therefore Mary must have been sinless and did not need the cross, and the next thing you know people are talking to Mary during prayer more than to The Lord. And that's just ONE avenue.
I know right? Logic ruins everything!
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Re: Apostolic But Not Believing Jesus is The Fathe
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Originally Posted by Timmy
I know right? Logic ruins everything!
Can't follow context, can you.
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"Many Christians do not try to understand what was written in a verse in the Bible. Instead they approach the passage to prove what they already believe."
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