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Old 12-30-2014, 12:26 PM
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Re: born of water

Sean continues his misrepresentations....

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This passage is your thorn in the side bro. "FOR" means.."in order to obtain"....You seem to think the Holy Ghost remits sins, which is not what the passage says at all.
He ignored completely what I had previously.....
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He knows I affirm it is indeed for(in order that) the remission of sins.
When one keeps lying about you after you've made yourself clear on an issue, they are demonstrating which father they are really of.

And I never said that Holy Ghost baptism "remits sins". More outright lies. I have affirmed that sins are remitted (denoting a record being expunged, cleared) by God at baptism, not by baptism.

However, Spirit baptism does deal with our sin nature by imparting unto us supernaturally a clean heart and the nature of Christ. In Romans 8:2 Paul declares that it is the life of the Spirit that frees us from the law of sin and death, and that those who are indwelt by the Spirit are "not in the flesh" or under the dominion of the flesh. Sean maintains that those with the Spirit with an imperfect immersion (done based on faith and true repentance and not as a ritual) are indeed still in the flesh and were not liberated from the law of sin and death when the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus came to live in them.

As for Catholics, I must refer you to the remarks i made to ifrog in a previous post.
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