Lee Stoneking Addresses UN

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Originally Posted by mfblume

How many times must I say that THE BIBLE stated those who do not follow Christ alone are lost, not me?

oh, i don't know--one less time than i state that you don't get to define these concepts for everyone else, i guess.

Originally Posted by mfblume

How many times must I say that GOD is the arbiter of another man's walk and has stated what conditions makes a person saved, and that it's NOT OUR GOOD DEEDS but HIS DEEDS of the cross?

well, until you demonstrate that you really believe that, i'd say. Love disqualifies all your talk at the moment, if you even believe in your heart that someone else is deserving of your condemnation, Mr Blume. You have yet to connect the two, at least in your speech. But again, you might be acting completely differently, i don't know. If/when you ever come to the realization that Muslims are not all lost, just because they have not gotten baptized according to your definitions (and not UPCI ones, or whatever), then please feel free to get back to me, and I'll see if i can't find some Scripture to absolve you

Originally Posted by mfblume

And I see you are not directly answering my questions without a disclaimer. When I say what the Bible stated, I am not the judge. You cannot see that, can you?

Mr Blume, this presupposes that you have some divine interpretation of Scripture, that everyone must adhere to, or be lost. It is a purely self-serving, circular justification. Made with the best of intent, i understand that.

Originally Posted by mfblume

I am only relaying what the Bible says.

yes, and i am only relaying that my interpretation of the Bible can beat up your interpretation of the Bible every day of the week, and twice on Sunday. You interpret the Bible for everyone else; you might seek a better way. Those definitions that you are so convinced of, that you don't even examine them, might be useless now.

Originally Posted by mfblume

So, you still cannot grasp our point.

your point was evident at "Muslims are lost," Mr Blume. Your spirit was manifest in this statement, this belief. You insist that works cannot save you, and ignore that works can condemn you. Yes, i am a hypocrite.