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Old 05-23-2015, 08:06 PM
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So you chose not to comment on my question?

Are Jesus name people filled with the Spirit going to Gehenna fire because:

1. Men wearing beards.
2. Women cutting their hair?
Michael, I already answered you.

http://www.apostolicfriendsforum.com...8&postcount=52

Looking forward to your information in the eschatology section.
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Old 05-26-2015, 02:24 PM
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So when you had the Holy Spirit as a Charismatic believer do you feel you were not saved period? And also to me "saved" means two things.
How I felt is of no relevance. Remission of sins is only by baptism in Jesus name. You cannot go to heaven if you still have your sin hanging around.

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The first "saved" is INITIAL salvation. This is through faith, repentance, water baptism in Jesus name, receiving the gift of the Holy Ghost.

To me if one has not done these things they are not "fully" saved. If they are walking by faith in Jesus they have begun a walk with him but not in a full way.

Thats why the UPC says the FULL STANDARD of salvation is Acts 2:38.

If one does not ULTIMATELY do what Acts 2:38 says as I said earlier I would not assure them they are born again or "saved" in the fullness of what saved means.

If one has received the baptism of the Holy Spirit it is difficult to say they are not saved at least in part because the Spirit is given as a witness to those God accepts.
I would only identify them as having a relationship with God. I know I had one, but I still needed to follow in obedience. I suppose in same way we are saying the same thing, but our terminology is different.

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Now the other part of "saved" is FINAL SALVATION. This is as Jesus said "he who endures to the end the same SHALL BE SAVED. Matt 24:13.

In this sense of "saved" none of us are yet "fully" saved. Many Apostolics who have been saved in INITIAL SALVATION will not wind up in Heaven. One also must be an OVERCOMER to escape Hell.

11 He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches; He that overcometh shall not be hurt of the second death. Rev. 2:11

Case in point would be that some Apostolics feel safe because they have been baptized in Jesus name and received the Holy Ghost. Yet they may walk in other false doctrines or traditions of men. They have no qualms about saying Charismatics are going to Hell because they have rejected the truth.

Yet they themselves teach much error about a number of things. So my point is that we have to keep going on with Jesus in spirit and truth. He does not allow any of us to think we can enter Heaven unless we do.
I completely agree with you on this point. We have to continue to walk in truth, overcome, endure to the end to truly be saved.
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Amen! You took the words right off my keyboard, I was thinking the same thing.
She will have lived a life for God and in the end find out her sins were not remitted. That is heart breaking.
I would be devastated if I found myself lost after living for God. I find myself still asking God to open my eyes to see the truth He wants me to see. I just hate when it hurts, though I love Him for it.
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I will see if I can find a teaching I did on the forum here and bring it back when I get time. Its been a bit slow on Paltalk lately so I have been spending more time here on AFF. Dont know how long that will last.
Paltalk still exists??? Wow!
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Old 05-26-2015, 02:53 PM
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Paltalk still exists??? Wow!
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How I felt is of no relevance. Remission of sins is only by baptism in Jesus name. You cannot go to heaven if you still have your sin hanging around.



I would only identify them as having a relationship with God. I know I had one, but I still needed to follow in obedience. I suppose in same way we are saying the same thing, but our terminology is different.



I completely agree with you on this point. We have to continue to walk in truth, overcome, endure to the end to truly be saved.
Awesome post.
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Re: Misty Edwards Telling Prophetic Dream

It is sad. You would hope that there would a voice warning about the great shaking to come among Apostolics.

But no OUR word concerning the end time is that Jesus came in 70ad!

And those who teach it (he came in 70ad) are considered "saved".
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It is sad. You would hope that there would a voice warning about the great shaking to come among Apostolics.

But no OUR word concerning the end time is that Jesus came in 70ad!

And those who teach it (he came in 70ad) are considered "saved".
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I don't lightly mock anything.

Just like Elijah didn't lightly mock the prophets of Baal.

So, now that we have cleared all that up maybe you would like to accompany me to the eschatology section? There you can teach me in the thread I started in 08-06-2014, entitled Two Witness Prophets? The Man Child Ministry? Amen, please come and help me.


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I will see if I can find a teaching I did on the forum here and bring it back when I get time. Its been a bit slow on Paltalk lately so I have been spending more time here on AFF. Dont know how long that will last.


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Thank you, and could you also give your views on post #2 in the aforementioned thread?

Again, thank you looking forward to the questions and answers dialog.
Mike, if I'm so meteor plunging into hell, then why aren't you digging up those Bible studies and hoofing it down to the eschatology section so you can Socratically teach me? Or should I say "Rabbinically teach me?"

Sorry, but your singer's prophetic words were more focused on her. Her calling "singers" and "prophets" not all focused on plastic looking church goers and a shaking in the church. Also it wasn't an end time scenario, as much as it was really about having revival, an awaking in Christianity. Yet, if a Pre Tribber and a Preterist will be cuffed together in a lake of fire, then men who coerce married women over the internet to drive over 1,000 miles to be baptized in a Jacuzzi in the name of Yeshua will be right there with us.

See you in the eschatology section.

Please find those studies, or just PM them to me.
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Yet, if a Pre Tribber and a Preterist will be cuffed together in a lake of fire, then men who coerce married women over the internet to drive over 1,000 miles to be baptized in a Jacuzzi in the name of Yeshua will be right there with us.
Dom,

I was asked to come and baptize her. She specified to be baptized in the Hebrew name which I was glad to do. MY WIFE AND I met her for fellowship and water baptism.

She then fully unexpected by me gave me 1000 dollars to buy a computer as directed by the Lord as she told us. My wife flew to Florida later and spent a week with her AND HER HUSBAND.

So would you have rather she NOT been baptized in the name of the Lord? I thought you believe people go to Hell if they are not.

You should be rejoicing that these things occured.
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Dom,

I was asked to come and baptize her. She specified to be baptized in the Hebrew name which I was glad to do. MY WIFE AND I met her for fellowship and water baptism.

She then fully unexpected by me gave me 1000 dollars to buy a computer as directed by the Lord as she told us. My wife flew to Florida later and spent a week with her AND HER HUSBAND.

So would you have rather she NOT been baptized in the name of the Lord? I thought you believe people go to Hell if they are not.

You should be rejoicing that these things occured.
Mike that's not what she told us.

But don't worry about it, you have no problems as you have just posted. You will pass Gehenna with flying colors.

Where is she now?
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