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Originally Posted by mfblume
But you're putting the cart before the horse. You said Muslims carry their crosses and are therfore saved. The Bible, not me, teaches, before all of that, one must be given righteousness through conscious faith thst Jesus died as them. Without that all important faith, a million crosses carried and loving people til we drop cannot save us a bit. So when you said that view of righteousness by the cross is wrong, by saying Muslims who deny his crucifixion are saved, you agreed with nothing about salvation.
That starting point must be made and THEN we proceed to bear fruit.
We cannot love people enough to save us. Period.
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you would have to convince the Good Samaritan of that, Mike. I do not agree, although there was a time when i would have. Good fruit does not come from bad trees. I know it is a big step. And it is complicated by works of the law. But God judges peoples' hearts, differently than how we judge. People who might never agree with you can be saved, and we have several parables for this. There is no standard but fruit.
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