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Old 11-30-2015, 10:30 AM
shazeep shazeep is offline
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Re: Love One Another and the Cross

"Your doctrine is salvation by works in which a person earns righteousness by loving people."

Well, you keep insisting upon that; yet faith without works is still dead. So, i think this might be another impasse.

You must have works to find salvation. (i'll just state it as baldly as possible)
true or false?

"What makes us righteous is our faith in His death and resurrection."
then why are fundamental Christians such jerks? We either have different definitions of "righteous," "faith," "His death," or "resurrection," or some combination.

I'll try to read the rest of your tome up there--or have my lawyer look it over--here in a bit; but it is obvious that religion invites one into certain legal interpretations of Scripture that then become our assumptions, and it doesn't hurt to examine these; especially when they lead one into such demonstrable oxymorons as "Everyone who does not believe like i do is lost, and going to hell" but "God is love."

Christ is certainly the author and perfecter of our faith; i am not intent on leading anyone away from the Cross, but toward it. "Greater LOVE hath no man."

Understand that i am not going to try to question your quotations--i could "prove" that Paul was "lost" using Scripture, too. So at a certain point, one must interpret with their heart.

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