I like what Shaz has to say. I "buy" what he is selling. And what Mike is selling, too. And anyone else I feel like has truth. And I take what truth I can get from them and add that to what I can get from the Word. Cause I'm not already perfect. He has a different approach for sure. It's welcomed to me. Beats the arrogance some others post with. I even read the mutual respect between Mike and Shaz in their dialogues. But I don't read that he hates Christians or anyone else for that matter.
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i don't actually expect to break through this resistance, of course; but if you have any new thoughts on the matter, be my guest!
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Originally Posted by mfblume
That would be true if I judged anyone.
well, my reply is that that would be genuine, if you as a believer did not feel judged when i told you that you were lost; but i doubt that that is true.
Not one bible verse says 'you are lost if you judge/condemn'. This is a central tenet of Shazeepianity, not Christ nor Christianity.
A person who does not show mercy will not be shown mercy. A person who does not forgive those who trespass against him will not be forgiven by God of his trespasses against heaven. A person who judges and condemns others unrighteously is either unrighteous already (the 'condemning being merely a symptom of a larger issue), or is being foolish and ignorant and falling into unscriptural and unChristian (unallowed) behaviours.
But identifying those who deny the Son of God, who reject the Gospel, and who teach lies and falsehoods in the name of other gods and on behalf of false prophets is not 'judging/condemning' in the sense you are using it.
We are commanded to 'judge righteous judgment. We are commanded to test the spirits whether they are of God, because there are many false prophets gone out into the world. And the way those spirits are tested is both practically AND doctrinally.
You have invented your own religion, borrowed mostly from humanistic and nihilistic 'post-modernism', and rather than being honest and brave enough to declare your new thing, you try to pass it off as 'historic Christian truth, originally taught by Jesus'.
You hate Christians and Christianity yet are obsessed with convincing yourself you are 'a real Christian' or something. You aren't fooling anyone but yourself, nobody - and I mean NOBODY - buys this nonsense you are peddling as 'the REAL truth about the gospel'. Only you.
Must be a guilty conscience about something lol.
this is hardly my original idea, Esaias.
But i see again that we might clarify the difference in "judge" and "condemn," and i guess i'll have to go do a study on it myself
You unwittingly give creedence to Islam, btw, in making Dialogue with a Muslim. Would you Dialogue with a Satanist? and this is disregarding that no dialogue was ever intended. Just sayin.
I can say that this started with a twich in my leg. I ate a banana and it stopped.
ergo..
so im going full on orange juice! yea me.
well, fruit juice comes with its own problems...but i guess there is something in OJ that prostates love; not sure if 'they' have even figured out what it is yet?
I like what Shaz has to say. I "buy" what he is selling. And what Mike is selling, too. And anyone else I feel like has truth. And I take what truth I can get from them and add that to what I can get from the Word. Cause I'm not already perfect. He has a different approach for sure. It's welcomed to me. Beats the arrogance some others post with. I even read the mutual respect between Mike and Shaz in their dialogues. But I don't read that he hates Christians or anyone else for that matter.
Hope you get a good return on your investment, then.
and this is disregarding that no dialogue was ever intended. Just sayin.
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