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Old 05-09-2016, 12:08 AM
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Re: A Picture of Grace from God's Point of View

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exactly. so why do you expect a Muslim to feel any different? An unregenerate sinner demonstrates that they have not changed their mind, and generally displays the same mindset as everyone else, which in America might be described as dissing Muslims incoherently, and only shutting up when someone asks you what any Muslim has ever done to you--or Catholic, or whomever else is being condemned that day; just like most people all over the world do. "We have got it right, and everyone else, not so much."

So maybe we should refine the definition of "unregenerate sinner" here, because to me that = bigots who have found some isolated Scriptures to condemn other people with, which is what they were going to do anyway, but now they get to pretend that God said it. As you think, so are you, and you are free to sugar coat it with claims of channeling God all you like.

What i don't really get tho is i quote Christ and get shouted down by people who claim Jesus is God but quote Paul go figure
I don't place any expectations upon any Muslims. They, as all others, are free to live their own life as they see fit. But let us be honest about what a Muslim is. A Muslim is a member of the Islamic faith. The Islamic faith was founded by Muhammed. The main catechism of the Islamic faith is as follows:

"There is no god but Allah, and Muhammed is His prophet"

Devout Muslims practice the five pillars. The read and memorize the Qu'ran, their main sacred text. They also study the Hadiths and other Islamic writings.

Contained within these fundamentals, is a belief that Jesus, that is, Isa, is a great prophet and messenger of Allah. Isa is highly revered in Islamic tradition. He is even considered Messiah, and is expected to return to earth again in a Second Coming.

All of which would be wonderful except for one glaring problem. No Muslim if he or she wants to be taken seriously as a Muslim and accepted by his or her Islamic peers, will ever believe Isa died on a cross and that He is the Son of God/Allah. In college, I talked at length with a Muslim friend from Nigeria and the main stumblingblock and diving line was Jesus being the Son of God. She would not have it!

Therefore, the moment a Muslim believes those things about Isa, he or she is no longer a Muslim. Muhammed will be discarded as a false prophet, the Qu'ran will be relegated to the dust bin, and except for those who speak Arabic, Allah will be removed from the vocabulary and in its place, God will be adopted.

The faiths are mutually exclusive. Why in the world you can't or seemingly refuse to see that is beyond me.

You seem always ready to defend a Muslim while concurrently ready to smear a Christian. What's the deal?

I challenge you to watch this video to the end:



See how when one converts to Christianity, they don't stay a Muslim?

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