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Old 04-26-2017, 04:46 PM
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Re: It's Your Fault People Are Homosexual

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It seems that in your theology, it is possible, though unlikely, nevertheless possible for a person to be righteous on their own.
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Suppose someone did that. Hypothetically.

Would that be bad? Or good?

Think about it.
The key part of what JD posted is "on their own."

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So, you are saying that being truly righteous is bad?

God doesn't want us to be righteous? That wasn't His original intention for mankind?

Think about it... if Christ died to save sinners and justify the ungodly, it follows that being a sinner and ungodly is BAD. It also means that people OUGHT to have been righteous in the first place. God wanted righteousness, but we failed. God loves us, so He makes a way to reclaim us and make us holy and good.

Therefore, if say Adam never sinned, you are saying that would be bad! And that God ought to have punished Adam for being obedient! Can you not see how that line of thinking makes no sense and contradicts everything the Bible teaches?
Not understand how you get from JD's statement to Adam.

Please explain your belief that the Bible teaches we can be righteous on our own. IE without God ... God relegated to the role of water boy.

I must be missing something.
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