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Originally Posted by Pliny

Irrational is when you say the Hebrew "probably received their pants" from Babylon then in the same post dogmatically say they were forced to wear them. Irrational is when you post some convoluted logic only to later disavow it.

It's actually not that irrational. I'm not saying that you have to agree, I'm just going to state my case.

The Hebrews (both men and women) wore these linen pantaloons under their inner garments at times. However, in Babylon, what was worn wasn't these plain linen pantaloons undergarments, they were a hosen, often made of silk and were ornately embroidered. They also flared a bit at the thigh. The only similarity they really had were that they were bifurcated. The pantaloons worn in Israel were plain linen undergarments. The hosen worn in Babylon were actually worn as an outer garment, like the pants we wear today.

My point is, if these are to be considered "pants" (worn as an outer garment), they couldn't have been anything worn in Israel (which was only worn as part of the inner garment).

The pants the Hebrew young men wore were not undergarments.

BINGO!!!

Per your own reference, the pantaloons worn by the Israelites were undergarments:

Barnes
"Coat - The Jews wore two principal garments, an interior and an exterior. The interior, here called the “coat,” or the tunic, was made commonly of linen, and encircled the whole body, extending down to the knees. Sometimes beneath this garment, as in the case of the priests, there was another garment corresponding to pantaloons."

Since we agree that the hosen worn by the three Hebrews WASN'T an undergarment (like that worn by the Israelites), we can therefore safely conclude that these hosen were... traditional Babylonian attire that was worn as outer wear!

BTW you have NEVER pointed out that women wore pants in any fashion. This is only in the figment of your imagination. Please give me the BIBLE VERSE where women wore pants. Since you say you have "pointed it out" it should be easy for you to do again.

What I refuse to accept is YOUR OPINION.

I'm not asking you to accept my opinion. I'm asking you to accept yours. Here's what YOU wrote:

Originally Posted by Pliny View Post
Wrong again.

Matthew 5:40 And if any man will sue thee at the law, and take away thy coat, let him have thy cloke also.
Barnes
"Coat - The Jews wore two principal garments, an interior and an exterior. The interior, here called the “coat,” or the tunic, was made commonly of linen, and encircled the whole body, extending down to the knees. Sometimes beneath this garment, as in the case of the priests, there was another garment corresponding to pantaloons."

It is a fact that we know three godly Hebrew young men wore pants and according to Barnes, a garment corresponding to pants were sometimes worn.

I'm pointing out that the very same "pantaloons" (Barnes) that you are pointing out as proof of pants... was also worn by women. Therefore, if these are proof of pants... they are proof that women wore pants too.

Your own words and evidence is testifying against you. Now, if you wish to take back that these "pantaloons" are proof that the Israelites were wearing pants, then no one can claim that women wore pants too. But then you'd have to agree with me, since these were undergarments. No Israelite truly wore "pants".

You can beat your chest all you want and stomp your feet but you have miserably failed to demonstrate that godly women ever wore pants of any kind. Please give me the chapter and verse of where this can be found; otherwise, I will have to say you are misrepresenting again.

Bro, I'm not beating my chest and stomping. I'm laughing because the very things you're citing as proof that Israelite men wore pants... were also worn by women. LOL

You're the only one chest beating and stomping around here with demands. LOL