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Old 10-05-2017, 07:32 PM
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Re: Apparent mass shooting on Las Vegas Strip

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Don't be an arrogant jerk like the other poster. I don't need a lesson on how they work or definitions. I know how it works.
I was not attempting to be an "arrogant jerk", simply to correct a fallacy you posted. That fallacy being that a bump stock turns a gun into a "full auto".

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turn a semi-auto into a full auto.
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tell me that isn't full auto.


Video 1, Full auto AR15:
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but that is absolutely full auto.
I have simply been attempting to correct what I saw as a mistake in your post.

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I'm not confused about anything. You're arguing semantics. You're arguing that the bump stock is repeatedly pulling the trigger, ergo not a true full auto. It's true that the bump stock is doing the work, but the person firing the gun is not. It has the same effect, albeit slower cyclic rate, as a full auto. Set as semi auto, one trigger pull, one round. Set as full auto, one trigger pull, it will fire until released or until you run out of rounds.
I already conceded that you could make the argument it behaves LIKE a fully automatic, I was merely pointing out that - by definition - it is not a true fully automatic.

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It may give the appearance of full auto - one could even argue it is effectively the same as full auto - but it is not actually full auto.
I'm not arguing with you that its rapid fire isn't similar to a fully automatic, just that it doesn't fit the definition of one.

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I've talked with guys who have used these, to the person firing, there is little difference between using the bump stock set on full auto and using a fully automatic rifle. It's similar in that the person does not have to pull the trigger repeatedly, as the video I posted clearly shows.
Little difference perhaps, but there is a difference.

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No, THEY are not.

https://youtu.be/U7DTjSla-O8?t=3m06s

SHE is not pulling the trigger over and over.

Clearly you are confused. Words mean things and stuff like that.
Clearly, you did not read my post thoroughly before lashing out at me.

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That's just it, they ARE pulling the trigger over and over. It's just handled by the bump stock.
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"""“The NRA believes that devices designed to allow semi-automatic rifles to function like fully-automatic rifles
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it allows a semi auto rifle to function like a fully automatic rifle.
Functioning like a full auto doesn't make it a full auto. This is the only point I've been trying to convey through my posts. Your initial posts made the mistake of stating it was converted into an actual fully automatic weapon. I was correcting your mistake and pointing out that they could act similar, but they wouldn't actually become one.

Again, I never intended to come across as being an "arrogant jerk", I simply wanted to correct a mistake I saw. If I failed to convey that properly and offended you, I apologize for my lack of clarity.
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