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Old 01-04-2019, 05:07 PM
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Re: Holy Ghost

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Did you know practitioners of certain types of yoga experience glossolalia? And shakes, crying, powerful emotional catharsis, overwhelming feelings both emotional and physical (love, joy, electric shocks, heat/fire, wind, etc)?
I've heard that before. Ironically that's also how most Pentecostals describe their experiences with the Holy Ghost.

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And isn't it interesting that the Bible never identifies emotions or sensations as proof of the genuineness of a moving of the Spirit?
Not really. It's more interesting that Apostolics do identify those things as a evidence of a genuine moving of the Spirit.

More importantly it wasn't the emotions that convinced me that the original was real, it was the many hours of praying for the experience and then finally speaking in tongues. However, after having experienced the real I think I have a pretty good handle on being able to compare the real experience to any other experience.

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Speaking in tongues, magnifying God, rejoicing, prophesying, etc, are all listed as signs or evidences, but never PROOF. The NT shows people in undeniably "pentecostal" church communities who TURN OUT TO BE fakes, frauds, charlatans, apostates, antichrists, false teachers, liars, deceivers, agents of Satan, backsliders, sinners, reprobates, and even having unclean/evil spirits. Yet they, for a time, passed incognito in churches founded upon a definitely ecstatic spiritual conversion experience. How so?

Because they could look and act the part just as good as anyone else. But eventually, they get exposed, leave, get found out, or walk away, etc. Why? Because God does in fact prune His vine.
Or maybe they weren't just looking and acting the part. It's actually offensive that such is the default take of anyone that falls away. It's sad really that your faith is so fragile that you couldn't handle it if someone really had what you had and fell away. The bible talks about those that have the true genuine thing and fall away. Why is it that when confronted with such an occurrence that you are incapable of accepting it?
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