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Originally Posted by Costeon
You think it is biblical that someone can receive the life-giving Spirit and at that very moment still be lost if he has not been baptized yet because he is actually still dead in sin. I don't think that is biblical or logical. As I noted to Diakonos, it is not surprising that no other group in the history of Christianity has ever believed you could be born of the Spirit but at that very moment still be unforgiven and thus dead in sin.
So we're at an impasse.
Here is the implication of the most common Oneness Pentecostal view of the conversion experience: someone may be resurrected in Christ at the moment he receives the Spirit, but if he has not yet been baptized, he never actually died or was buried with Christ to begin with. He is raised with Christ, but now needs to die and be buried with Christ.
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I find it amazing that, rather than dealing with what was presented, people will ignore what is said, restate their position, repeat their erroneous summary of the other side's position, and then declare victory for themselves and "an impasse" for the discussion.
It's really bizarre to be honest.
Well, not really, it makes perfect sense if a person simply has the whole thing sewn up and isn't really interested in DIALOGUE and DISCUSSION but is simply interested in pontificating.