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Originally Posted by Esaias
I find it amazing that, rather than dealing with what was presented, people will ignore what is said, restate their position, repeat their erroneous summary of the other side's position, and then declare victory for themselves and "an impasse" for the discussion.
It's really bizarre to be honest.
Well, not really, it makes perfect sense if a person simply has the whole thing sewn up and isn't really interested in DIALOGUE and DISCUSSION but is simply interested in pontificating.
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You're mischaracterizing my post. I'm not pontificating. Why go there? I disagree with your take. You disagree with mine. I didn't think it would be helpful to go line by line and say, "I disagree." I've dialogued with you a few times before, and it has generally ended up with us not agreeing with each other. Going round and round over every verse has never accomplished anything. I was just trying to shorten the process, since we are, indeed, at an impasse.
Again, here is the implication of the most common Oneness Pentecostal view of the conversion experience: someone may be resurrected in Christ at the moment he receives the Spirit, but if he has not yet been baptized, he never actually died or was buried with Christ to begin with. He is raised with Christ, but now needs to die and be buried with Christ. That doesn't make sense, and I am surprised that anyone would not find it to be a conundrum.