Quote:
Originally Posted by Nicodemus1968
Hebrews 13:7
Remember them which have the rule over you, who have spoken unto you the word of God: whose faith follow, considering the end of their conversation.
Who is this talking about?
Hebrews 13:17
Obey them that have the rule over you, and submit yourselves: for they watch for your souls, as they that must give account, that they may do it with joy, and not with grief: for that is unprofitable for you.
Watch:
Ultimately from G1 (as negative particle) and G5258; to be sleepless that is keep awake: - watch.
I believe these verses are talking the Pastor, overseer of the flock, Angel of the church. He will be required to give an account for your soul. If your Pastor is one to just give wisdom, and or advice thats not a Pastor. I have friends that can do that!
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In the two verses Brother Nicodemus quoted above, in red, there are two key phrases. One is that there are rulers mentioned. Nicodemus believes this is referring to pastors. I don’t believe it is. So, he and Hometown Guy have decided that I am bitter. It can’t possibly be that I am rightly dividing the word, and they are not, because they are pastors or preachers. So let’s parse some words.
First let’s consider who this letter is written to. The title gives us a clue. Hebrews. This letter is written to the Jews. It wasn’t written to the Gentiles. It is important to keep this in mind.
Remember them and obey them that rule over you. Rule over who? Rule over the Jews. Brother Nicodemus thinks it is the pastor. However, the problem with this theory is that it doesn’t SAY pastor. So it bears the question; Who ruled the Jews?
Allow me. . .
John.3
[1] There was a man of the Pharisees, named
Nicodemus, a ruler of the Jews:
Yes. Nicodemus (not to be the confused with the man who posts on AFF) the one who came to Jesus by night, was a ruler of the Jews. So
Hebrews 13:17 could be talking about Nicodemus, and others like him, whom the Bible clearly says are the rulers of the Jews. It was the rulers of the Jews that rejected Jesus as the Messiah and had him crucified. Now Nicodemus was obviously not a pastor. He was not a Christian at this point. But, he WAS a ruler of the Jews, and as such he was to be obeyed.
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