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Old 06-18-2007, 06:01 PM
Nahum Nahum is offline
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The bible clearly demonstrates that the "name" is referring to authority, not to the utterance of "Jesus" as if it were an incantation.....abracadabra...


The police officer that says "Stop in the name of the law" is not saying to stop based on his utterance of the word "law"....but rather, stop by the authority he possesses as an enforcer of law....

This is a very old, yet slick, argument.

Using your worldly analogy let's consider baptism with any "incantation" uttered. For the sake of discussion, I will assume that you believe that baptism is not effecacious. I will then assume that you believe the commandment to be baptized is an important Christian rite and ordinance to be partaken of by every believer.

With that in mind, why are any words necessary at all during the baptism process? Why do trinitarians hold tightly to an "incantation" of the magical words of "Father, Son, and Holy Ghost"? I mean if the words themselves have no meaning, what's the difference?

I could say "I baptize you into the gospel". Or, "I baptize you into the body".
Truly, in your view it would not matter because there is no menaing or authority in the words or Name spoken at baptism.

Your logic is faulty at best.
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