POA Use Idol Worship at Campmeeting?

[rgcraig]

Originally Posted by NLYP

Hate the chance to prove you wrong...really I do...But Ill savor the moment...

I John 5:7

"For there are THREE that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost, AND THESE THREE ARE ONE"

Jesus said "IN" me dwelleth ALL the fullness of the Godhead"

All Three in ONE!

Father in Creation, Son in Redemption and The Holy Ghost for Regeneration.

Who is the One?.....Jesus

again......"The Godhead Three in one (Jesus)...Father, Spirit, Son"

Did you go to Bible school? Did you attend all your classes?

[NLYP]

Originally Posted by rgcraig

Did you go to Bible school? Did you attend all your classes?

Not sure why you are asking Renda.

[Steve Epley]

Originally Posted by NLYP

Matthew 28:19 was from the Mouth of Jesus..."Baptizing them in the name of F,S and HG."

Yet Acts 2:38 Peter said in Jesus Name....Scripture is ALWAYS consistant WITH understanding.

Bottom line of my post was when we sing...."The Godhead three in one...Father, Spirit, Son"
We are singing the truth.

WE only freak out when we forget to say "manifestations" and other oneness "Lingo" to talk or sing or preach about the Godhead.

NOT three IN ONE! These three are one.

[Jehoram]

Originally Posted by NLYP

Matthew 28:19 was from the Mouth of Jesus..."Baptizing them in the name of F,S and HG."

Yet Acts 2:38 Peter said in Jesus Name....Scripture is ALWAYS consistant WITH understanding.

Bottom line of my post was when we sing...."The Godhead three in one...Father, Spirit, Son"
We are singing the truth.

WE only freak out when we forget to say "manifestations" and other oneness "Lingo" to talk or sing or preach about the Godhead.

Why does this man have a UPC license?

Originally Posted by NLYP

Steadfast,
I have prayed with you, been in your pulpit, eaten with you and I do consider you a very important friend, mentor and confidant. However I must say this, knowing full well it will not affect our appreciation for one another.

The "arenas" of which you speak, if you were to list them, will, I feel, ALWAYS boil down to what you would consider "Apostolic". There is NOTHING wrong with alot of what is happening, since it is birthed out of a hunger and a deep desire for some to feel out after God.

As Pastor Anthony said..."Holiness is not just taking away and putting aside....Holiness is also about branching out and seizing opportunities."

In YOUR circle...your version of "revival" is breaking out....GREAT....I celebrate that.

But in MY circle revival is also breaking out.....
Revival is revival and souls are souls and and the church will go forward.
But we must acknowledge the fact that God will not tolerate us keeping him our little box and our little paradigmn very long until he has to bust out.
And when he does, you can be assured it will be in ways we will think strange and out of the ordinary.
As to this whole thread.....WE need to stop acting like spiritual giants and stop the rhetoric if "we felt"...and realize that God can and will move in ways that our "feelers" are messed up.

Bro. Strange...I love you and I know you do me...but this whole thread disturbs me and I am quite discouraged at the image that you have painted about good men in our org.

Humbly My take on this,
Bro. Dan

Dan the Man,

You know from the one time that you were here that I'm not a 'brutish' man. Never have been and never will be unless provoked and have no recourse. It's just not a part of my nature to be obnoxious... but I do stand my ground on spiritual matters. I preface my statements only to let you know that I'm not 'attacking' you or anybody else.

My issue with your post, if I read it right, is that it's like many others that seem to imply that 'God accepts your way and, while totally different, God accepts my way just as much'. Sincerely, I don't really believe that those standing on 'spiritual' polar opposites are both right. Mind you, I'm not referring to you, personally, but to the tenure of your post. Simply put, there is a right and a wrong. On many issues that people say, "I'm okay; you're okay" God genuinely has an opinion and it won't agree with both factions. He is sovereign and has a right to opinions that are totally different than ours at times.

I do believe revival is being poured out in some arenas. I also believe that some people are stripping away anointing and 'supplementing' the lack of real Apostolic power with talented attempts at entertainment. It's sad to me that I go to places that scream, "Man! We had Church!" when all they had was flashing lights and someone trying really, really hard to be 'relevant' to this generation to the point they water down the impact of a true Apostolic experience.

My observations have nothing to do with Pastor A. Mangun or even the Louisiana Campmeeting. It does have to do, however, with being in 20 states and 4 different countries in the last 12 months and seeing a whole lot of 'stuff' being called Apostolic that isn't.

We have kicking services... you saw one the night you were here. We have kicking music... you even alluded to the volume being too loud. We have flashing lights that we use in banquets and such. My issue is with none of those things like music or modern attempts to reach the lost. My problem is the mentality that suddenly thinks that gut wrenching prayer, sincere dedication that results in a sanctified life and fearless preaching isn't enough anymore.

I think I know what you're trying to say, Brother, and I probably just misunderstood what you typed. Even so, I simply can't buy a 'the two different groups don't believe anything remotely alike but, hey, we're all going to the same place and having the same revival... and all of us are pleasing to God' mindset.

I think we ALL miss the boat by not seeking God's opinion more than we value ours.

Blessings.

[Hesetmefree238]

These three manifestations are in one, Christ Jesus. Not 3 persons, but 3
manifestations.
Col 2:9 "For in Him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily." Father,
Spirit, Son - It's all in Jesus!!!!
The song is perfectly in order, and is a great worship song.

[Steve Epley]

Originally Posted by Steadfast

Dan the Man,

You know from the one time that you were here that I'm not a 'brutish' man. Never have been and never will be unless provoked and have no recourse. It's just not a part of my nature to be obnoxious... but I do stand my ground on spiritual matters. I preface my statements only to let you know that I'm not 'attacking' you or anybody else.

My issue with your post, if I read it right, is that it's like many others that seem to imply that 'God accepts your way and, while totally different, God accepts my way just as much'. Sincerely, I don't really believe that those standing on 'spiritual' polar opposites are both right. Mind you, I'm not referring to you, personally, but to the tenure of your post. Simply put, there is a right and a wrong. On many issues that people say, "I'm okay; you're okay" God genuinely has an opinion and it won't agree with both factions. He is sovereign and has a right to opinions that are totally different than ours at times.

I do believe revival is being poured out in some arenas. I also believe that some people are stripping away anointing and 'supplementing' the lack of real Apostolic power with talented attempts at entertainment. It's sad to me that I go to places that scream, "Man! We had Church!" when all they had was flashing lights and someone trying really, really hard to be 'relevant' to this generation to the point they water down the impact of a true Apostolic experience.

My observations have nothing to do with Pastor A. Mangun or even the Louisiana Campmeeting. It does have to do, however, with being in 20 states and 4 different countries in the last 12 months and seeing a whole lot of 'stuff' being called Apostolic that isn't.

We have kicking services... you saw one the night you were here. We have kicking music... you even alluded to the volume being too loud. We have flashing lights that we use in banquets and such. My issue is with none of those things like music or modern attempts to reach the lost. My problem is the mentality that suddenly thinks that gut wrenching prayer, sincere dedication that results in a sanctified life and fearless preaching isn't enough anymore.

I think I know what you're trying to say, Brother, and I probably just misunderstood what you typed. Even so, I simply can't buy a 'the two different groups don't believe anything remotely alike but, hey, we're all going to the same place and having the same revival... and all of us are pleasing to God' mindset.

I think we ALL miss the boat by not seeking God's opinion more than we value ours.

Blessings.

Again I salute you. If the Trinitarians are preaching truth then we are preaching a lie because we are NOT preaching the same thing. BOTH cannot be right. Some issues are not clear so we disagree however the Oneness of God and Jesus Name baptism are NOT unclear issues that are not salvational.
Wine or juice we fuss. Pre-mid-post-PP we fuss. Mechizidec God or man we fuss. And many other topics but NOT the Godhead and Baptism in Jesus Name that will save or lose folks.

[Jehoram]

Originally Posted by Steve Epley

Again I salute you. If the Trinitarians are preaching truth then we are preaching a lie because we are NOT preaching the same thing. BOTH cannot be right. Some issues are not clear so we disagree however the Oneness of God and Jesus Name baptism are NOT unclear issues that are not salvational.
Wine or juice we fuss. Pre-mid-post-PP we fuss. Mechizidec God or man we fuss. And many other topics but NOT the Godhead and Baptism in Jesus Name that will save or lose folks.

I'm gonna stand up and applaud!

A hearty agreement Elder!

[NLYP]

Originally Posted by Alter Ego

Why does this man have a UPC license?

Why do you have a alter ego?
Why do you take shots from behind a screen name?

[Jehoram]

Originally Posted by NLYP

Why do you have a alter ego?
Why do you take shots from behind a screen name?

Uhmm, actually the screen is front of me. I am talented, but not that talented. Can you even imagine? How could someone type with the keyboard behind them?

I do not have an alter ego, I am Alter Ego!