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If this is the standard for ministers . . . then a lot of you should resign and turn in your cards immediately!  Those scriptures aren't just for the wicked televangelists. |
Who are you? Do you preach anywhere in America, or the world? Are you saying those scripture aren't true? So these preachers who you say should be put on television are wicked and should turn in their cards? That's interesting Brother CR, I am very surprised that you feel this way, because of your (as you put it) "rant" about going on television. You used the word "LOT" how much do you think, "LOT" is? Are you a United Pentecostal Church International preacher, member?
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Again,
IF that's the standard then half or
BETTER of ministers
NEED to turn in their cards and resign.
Correct me here if I'm wrong? CR, you believe more than half of the ministers in UPCI are disqualified to teach and minister and need to be sat down?
Yet you advocate their right to be on television? CR, I posted scripture out of the Bible not out of the United Pentecostal Church International minister manual. Your argument is really taking on a bad direction. Please think about what you’re saying? Again are you currently preaching and teaching? You don't have to tell me who you are just a yes or no to my question will help.
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I doubt you're blameless,
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How long have we known each other? So we are pretty much narrowing down your view of the pulpit and of the scripture that regulates that position. Interesting very interesting. These men and myself are accused in your mind without any bases other than your own lifestyle in Christ?
Would you consider yourself able to sit behind the pulpit? Do you occupy one now? Do the scripture I have posted hold any credibility for a church family today?
1st Tim 5:19?
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and I know a lot of other ministers that aren't blameless.
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You know a "LOT" what about the scriptures in Titus and Timothy there are pretty plain are they not? So we have a bit of a problem because these men cannot possibly climb behind a pulpit and teach, let alone teach a DENOMINATIONAL WORLD who already have a problem with the ONE GOD JESUS NAME MESSAGE. Now they will have questionable men teaching from off the blue tube. You have this television scenario starting off with a flat tire.
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Should we list the number of non-tv ministers caught in the web of pornography, or who have left their spouses or committed adultery? It's not a tv issue . . . it's a sin and flesh issue.
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I think now this is where you want me to repeat myself? I have already presented this in the argument I used LW and RN. So who will represent the UPCI?
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Right. Uh huh. I'm through debating this with you. In your view the internet is safe and okay to use for evangelism, but not television. In your view anyone and everyone who uses television for evangelism is bad, not blameless, etc. Television's a dumpster filled with maggots . . . the internet is a family-friendly place.
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Thank you for the invalidation and refusing to answer me. Television is entertainment based; it has only three channels that are any good?
Three channels? How about paying 80.00 a month for the Pentecostal channel? 900 channels 50.00 to 100.00 a month and you watch three channels? You make it sound like the Internet is all porn? There is more profitable stuff on the Internet than television that's a fact.
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You have a knack for twisting things around.
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Hey, CR you have to admit the "disclaimer" line was a scream. I almost fell of my chair.
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Hey come to happy pastor Pentecostal Church down here in sunny Florida,
WARNING:NOT EVERYTHING TAUGHT AT HAPPY PASTOR PENTECOSTAL CHURCH REFLECTS THE VIEWS OF THE UNITED PENTECOSTAL CHURCH
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Good grief!
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You insisted on rules and regulations for people representing the UPCI at large.
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Hello!! Where you been buddy? Do me a favor and read the position papers of the United Pentecostal Church International, read from page 143-161.
Brother are you a minister with the United Pentecostal Church?
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I stated that you don't need to do that, and if you must - fine - run a disclaimer on the program saying the UPCI doesn't endorse the views of the program.
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Better cut the cord to the internet. It's destroyed more homes since its creation than television has.
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Television has a head start and still counting. How about the guy who shot his wife for blocking his view of the football game? Or the two siblings who bashed each other's faces in because they wanted to watch two different programs. Soap operas causing problems in the home since the 1950s.
Let's not forget all those televangelists who did the most damage.
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Why do you keep using a quote from an R-rated movie? It's not very good behavior by you.
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Where's your head at? Try Kris Kristofferson.
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Yeah, yeah. You'd like to think television and internet are that, but they're not. But you can keep pretending if you'd like. Just keep pretending . . .
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You're upset because your argument didn't hold. Go on television and put up a DISCLAIMER. Brother CR, can you hold license in the United Pentecostal Church as a minister no matter what you believe as long as you give a disclaimer before you preach or teach?
In Jesus name
Brother Benincasa
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