NEWSFLASH . . . UPC in Australia on Television!

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Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

Correct me here if I'm wrong? CR, you believe more than half of the ministers in UPCI are disqualified to teach and minister and need to be sat down?

According to your definition of being in "good behavior" and "blameless" - yes.

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

Yet you advocate their right to be on television? CR, I posted scripture out of the Bible not out of the United Pentecostal Church International minister manual.

Is that any different than their being in the pulpit at all? C'mon, EB. You'll prevent them from being on tv because you're afraid of the scandals they'll create, yet you'll defend their right to continue in a pulpit as long as it's off television.

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

How long have we known each other? So we are pretty much narrowing down your view of the pulpit and of the scripture that regulates that position. Interesting very interesting. These men and myself are accused in your mind without any bases other than your own lifestyle in Christ? Would you consider yourself able to sit behind the pulpit? Do you occupy one now? Do the scripture I have posted hold any credibility for a church family today?

Not basing anything on my lifestyle. I'm using YOUR judgement against televangelist and flipping the coin.

Good Behavior - a lot, if your interpretation is correct, are sunk with that. They call it "Evangelistically speaking," but it's really a lie. Gossip cloaked as prayer requests, etc

Blameless - again, they call it "evangelistically speaking," but it's really a lie. Jewish Revival lies. Money siphoned from building funds and other accounts - used on golfing, cruises, homes, clothing and other things. Twisting context to try and prove right or wrong. Did you say 800 or 900 channels? Is that the truth, or you just intentionally overstating the facts in an effort to try and prove a point?

You used these to bash televangelists . . . and now you complain when I turn it back on yourself and others in our organization. *grin* Sounds familiar. Like what happened on another thread about research books.

It's fine by you to use scripture and demand authors present facts when you don't agree with it . . . but turn it around and you squirm, complain and twist words to try to spin the meaning - as you did here with the scriptures. Of course I believe they're credible and right.

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

I think now this is where you want me to repeat myself? I have already presented this in the argument I used LW and RN. So who will represent the UPCI?

You used two examples . . . TWO. There are more than that who I know personally backslid and left their families over internet adultery, and a few more who were caught up in online porn.

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

Thank you for the invalidation and refusing to answer me. Television is entertainment based; it has only three channels that are any good? Three channels? How about paying 80.00 a month for the Pentecostal channel? 900 channels 50.00 to 100.00 a month and you watch three channels? You make it sound like the Internet is all porn? There is more profitable stuff on the Internet than television that's a fact.

Now it's 900 channels? HA! Where in the world are you getting 800 first, and now 900 channels. Do some checking and you'll find that the average household only gets basic to digital . . . far less than the 800 or 900 you claim.

280 channels available, not 800

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

Television has a head start and still counting. How about the guy who shot his wife for blocking his view of the football game? Or the two siblings who bashed each other's faces in because they wanted to watch two different programs. Soap operas causing problems in the home since the 1950s.
Let's not forget all those televangelists who did the most damage.

You've given two uncited examples. Soap Operas have nothing on internet chat sites or craigslist. You say televangelists, what about the other ministers not on television that have split churches or have been caught siphoning money from the church.

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

Where's your head at? Try Kris Kristofferson.

Try "Animal House," 1985. KK - actor and host of SNL several times. Regardless it's funny you use a quote from him (an ACTOR . . . on the wicked and evil television!) over and over in your posts. Not sure where he got it from . . . but it's a quote from an R-rated movie.

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

You're upset because your argument didn't hold. Go on television and put up a DISCLAIMER. Brother CR, can you hold license in the United Pentecostal Church as a minister no matter what you believe as long as you give a disclaimer before you preach or teach?

No, I'm upset because you twist things around . . . like the disclaimer and scriptures . . . in an effort to spin things around. Then you blatantly or ignorantly exaggerate things, like the number of channels available, etc.