NEWSFLASH . . . UPC in Australia on Television!

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Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

Brother, this discussion has deteriorated a couple of posts ago. I asked you if you were a minister, a United Pentecostal Church member, you went silent on both questions. Both have yes or no answers.

Not a minister – that’s been stated before. I attend a church pastored by a UPC licensed minister, also stated before. I don’t consider myself a UPC member.

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

Now I'm the bad guy? Brother I asked you to name all the Apostolic Pentecostals One GOD preachers who are proclaiming the Acts 2:38 message and the doctrine of the Mighty God in Christ on television and how many people across the United States follow their ministries?

I don’t know . . . I don’t watch religious broadcasting on television – and you and your buddies are trying to keep the UPC off television. So most likely there are or will be none on television, which is pretty sad.

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

My interpretation? Brother it's the Bible, "Jesus wept" couldn't be more plain and so were those scriptures. Evangelistically speaking? I know Brothers who despise that kind of foolishness, good Brothers who don't deserve to be labeled as liars. Who do you fellowship with Brother?

ES is often laughed at. It’s a joke. Wink wink, nudge nudge. Don’t tell me you don’t know or haven’t seen/been around ministers who laughed about ES.

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

Gossip cloaked in prayer requests? Is that what you do?

Nope. But there are ministers who use the phone, email and web forums to send out information and gossip to other ministers under the guise of . . . “Brethren, please pray for . . . . . . . “ and then proceed to spread gossip.

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

Whoa, Hoss, who are you hanging with Bro? These are the men you want to represent you and your church family? Oh, by the way, did I say you never let me know if you yourself are preaching anywhere? Are you currently a member at a UPCI congregation? Is the above the norm in your world?

The men I’ve “hung” with are from regular pastors to District and HQ reps . . . no it’s not the “norm” but it’s enough.

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

How will Pentecost benefit from these horrible people you describe getting national televised programs? What kind of evangelism will they reap?

Ignorant . . .

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

Oh I see how you are. So now you saying that I'm trying to decieve? Very good, I don't watch television, last time I heard television had over 800 or 900 channels, may even been 1,000 channels?

I thought you were smarter than believing everything you heard. Pardon me for assuming you actually put some scrutiny and looked into what was available. From now on I’ll just assume that you haven’t looked into it and that you’re going by just what you heard. I don’t know where in the world you got those numbers from. The 280 available where I live is from the largest cable provider and is EVERY SINGLE CHANNEL available. That’s including all the PPV channels and packaged channels – which is way more than what the average household subscribes to. At the most, the average subscribes to between 75 and 100 channels, maybe more if they have an HD tv.

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

Do you know what a lie is Brother? I pray to the Lord Jesus you learn what a lie is before you have children. Or you will be accusing them of being liars (by your accusation). A liar is telling an untruth to cause deception, which means telling an untruth to deceive. Young Brother, do yourself a favor go strengthen your argument, instead of grabbing for anything to try to win.

I know what a lie/liar is . . . I don’t need you to explain it to me.

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

So if you believe they're correct you then don't believe they are applicable in this day and age? By what I have gathered from you this far is that more than half of the men in the UPCI are smoked cartridges and they need to be on television to evangelize the world? Brother I'm just asking questions it seems that you're the one twisting and "ranting".

What?!?

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

Backslid, so you are looking forward to having backslid men on the television? I used the two that a wide range of our people already know about. That's all I needed to say. Thank you very much for proving my point once again.

ONCE AGAIN – twisting words and context. Did I ever once say I looked forward or wanted backslid men on the television. It’s incredible the way you twist my statements – like this – to mean something completely different.

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

280 is it? All right 280 channels and most television apostolics will tell you they watch the History, Disney, and Animal Planet channels, still 280 and nothing an apostolic can watch but three channels.

You must not have read the post that was linked there. I listed a number of channels and broke down what the 280 channels were. IF you purchased EVERY SINGLE channel available, including PPV channels, you’d have 280. The average household only has between 75 and 100 channels. Of those, there are more than just 3 that are able to be watched.

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

Sorry, but Soap Operas and day time television has caused home problems for a long time. Way before Bill Gates was in Grammer school.

Again, according to your own words – you don’t watch television. Soap Operas lost their effect years ago. You should do some research and update your “reasons television is bad” file. Odds are if you took a poll on what tempts most – online chat and personal ads online would win big against Soap Operas. Do anyone besides old ladies even watch Soap Operas anymore?

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

You see CR, you keep trying to rabbit trail, let's stick with what about taking those same jack leg jelly beans and putting them on television. If some devil is wreaking horror in some parish or town, not much we can do about it, but put that same low life on the blue tube and now he has more power than he needs to have. Now doesn't that sound way more horrible? I will ask you again, who will go for us?

Obviously no one if you and your buddies get your way . . .

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

Like the disclaimer? Sorry that's your baby. I would have liked to take credit for that jewel, but alas you thought that one up all by yourself. The scriptures are correct you just really need to check out who and what you fellowship.

You twisted the disclaimer and what I meant by it, just as you have with a lot of other things.

I’m through. Don’t bother responding, I won’t respond back. You continue to twist things – like 5 quotes back when you stated I want backslid ministers on television. That’s a blatant lie! I never said that. Using the definition you provided, you used an untruth to try to cause deception. Not once did I state that I wanted backslid ministers on television.

I’m done debating with you. Good day.