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Old 08-16-2007, 12:17 PM
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Now, I do not believe you really think these examples are anywhere similar. A thread supporting arms designed to shoot another human made in God's image is much different then talking about the above subjects. Surely you can see the vast difference in these.

Now, if what we do to the “least of these” (See Matt 25:40, 45) is one in the same as doing it to Jesus, when is shooting another human ever acceptable for a Christian? If the person being shot "deserved it," would this not imply that he is a sinner? Unless you adhere to “once saved always saved,” or to the “doctrine of inclusion,” wouldn't the trigger then sentence the guilty party to an eternal hell? Who here that is in love with Jesus and His creation would want that to be on their conscience? Aren’t we called to give our life for another life as did Jesus? And for whom did He die; for sinners. Think about it. This is why we never find an account of the Apostles physically fighting for their own skin. Peter used a sword one time. But this was BEFORE his conversion. After, it was prayer that set him free (See Acts 12).

This whole issue comes down to one’s level of faith. Read it here:

Romans 12:17-21 Recompense to no man evil for evil. Provide things honest in the sight of all men. (18) If it be possible, as much as lieth in you, live peaceably with all men. (19) Dearly beloved, avenge not yourselves, but rather give place unto wrath: for it is written, Vengeance is mine; I will repay, saith the Lord. (20) Therefore if thine enemy hunger, feed him; if he thirst, give him drink: for in so doing thou shalt heap coals of fire on his head. (21) Be not overcome of evil, but overcome evil with good.

I think Paul knew what is best….
FYI this has been discussed and polled already here at AFF, in a thread titled 'Would you pull the trigger.'

What we took away from that thread, in essence, is the concept that a person has already chosen hell for themselves if they commence an assault where they are threatening another person with deadly force.

My application of Christianity to the topic of self defense is that, after a lethal defensive incident, gun-toting Christians are to pray for the family of their dearly-departed assailant in their time of 'loss.'
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