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Originally Posted by Brother Strange
I want to ask all you pacificst who would not protect by whatever means possible including the use of a firearm to protect
I would recommend that...
1. You tell your wife that if she is raped that you will "pray for her enemy." You should do this in all fairness so that she will know not to depend on you for protection. She may need to decide for herself what to do for protection if that awful day should ever arrive.
2. Give your daughter up for adoption to someone else who would be willing to protect that precious darling.
3. Give your beloved son up for adoption to someone who will teach him that when he becomes a man, it will become his God given duty to provide for and protect his own family. That he must do it as an act of love and devotion as a godly man filled with courage and a conviction of what is right and wrong.
4. Go live in another nation who think the same way that you think and will not fight to preserve what freedoms that they do have. Unfortunately, there is no such nation. They have long ago been swallowed up by an evil nation.
When love does not complel to protect family and nation by whatever means possible, love has fallen short of what God would have it to be. When love is faulty, courage is absent, conviction of what is right has flown away and the person is vulnerable to an evil attack when it will be shown that he never really believed his pacificist doctrine in the first place.
When scriptures are not understood that speak of not taking veangence, loving your enemies, etc., etc., it is very clear that they do not know the mind and attitude of God which has not changed since days of antiquity.
When you wife and daughter is abused and raped in front of your eyes when you have a means to stop it, you cannot even call the police...you will be too busy praying for them. Besides, even if you called the police, you would then be complicit in "rendering evil for evil," because the policeman will definitely STOP the evil man by whatever means possible, including he 9mm glock on his side...doing a job that you should have been doing. After all, the way that you all twist these scriptures that you present in your pacificist ideals, the police render evil for evil every day. So, if you are true to your convictions, you cannot involve the police to render evil for evil.
God has not changed, nor is he brain dead even if some people are.
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My, my. You are really against the rulership and power of God, aren't you? I pray God helps your family in time of crisis. I am sure they will rest easy knowing that if it comes, you will be calling 911 and grabbing your gun, instead of praying and relying on God.

I mean, it is really unthinkable that an Apostolic would just believe in God....
Brother Strange, I would rather opt for prayer to the God, than to rely on Smith and Wesson. Jesus is the One who has ALL power and authority. He has never failed me yet.
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