Water baptism, can you agree with this statement?

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Originally Posted by tbpew

In a perfect situation, yes.

But you made it very clear in your earliest posts here that many of us have no answer for your demand that until we can EXPLAIN how Cornielus' house received the Holy Ghost, in the same manner that the Jews did, without having ALREADY been water baptised.

My answer to you is this.
God established a means for YOUR 'old man' to be crucified by following your faith into the waters of baptism.
God provides his Spirit to those who, in faith, call upon his name, desiring him to make his habitation in their heart.

The two are not mutally dependant but both operate to establish the completeness of the outcome of our Lord and Saviour's redemptive work at Calvary.

If you are fine with dragging your 'old man', alive and well, where ever you go,
AND
you have received God's Holy Spirit to lead you in all truth
then
you will either burst (leaving the whole crazy God issue for somebody else) or your double-mindedness will drive you to a place where you will eventually oppose your own self.

If you have NOT received the gift of the Holy Ghost, then double-mindedness will not be the issue you will face.

Pharoah's deal as a ruler was well served by his slaves.

You think your old carnal mindedness is just going to boogey because you confess Jesus? If you do, I'd be very careful rebuking any real devils.

God has made a way. You go ahead and choose whatever you want. Just be careful if you are teaching others that there is no remedy for the monkey on their back, just because you have grown so accustom to one on your's.

Once again IF I understand what you are saying (HONESTLY not trying to difficult but your syntax is very hard to follow)

We have Cornelius (and hundreds of thousands of others) getting the Holy Ghost on credit, that they will complete the work of salvation by water baptism? And if they die before completing this work they are doomed to hell, and that they are no exceptions?

Furthermore, by your logic you have a HOLY Ghost infilling an unregenerated (blood either not applied or half applied or two thirds applied depending on the individual three stepper )man?

And if one receives the BHG before water baptism by your statement you are dragging your old man until you are baptised? (But didn't Paul contend with his old man AFTER experiencing both or was he not regenerated when he penned those words?) And by extrapolation the old man therefore goes away upon water baptism?