i Do Not like footwashing!!!! i will not participate unless i knew for sure it was a life or death heaven or hell matter. I think it's an ancient hospitality practice that was common in that time-not mandatory
This younger generation... what are we gonna do with 'em.
Bro. Epley, go easy on him.
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Waiting for the Lord is easy... Waiting patiently? Not so much.
I am sorry. I dont see what Brother Epley did that was so wrong. It seems to me his comments were respectful and not in anyway threatening.
I am lost.
Not that it matters, but in that slimy way that preachers do things, he first inferred that I was a fool for the comments I was making, and then made two references quoting my posts directly inferring that I was a "closet agnostic".
But as usual, they always make sure they have plausible deniability because everyone knows a preacher would never call anyone a name... "Heavens No! You just took it the wrong way."
The fear-mongers will not have any power when more people start standing up to them.
Not that it matters, but in that slimy way that preachers do things, he first inferred that I was a fool for the comments I was making, and then made two references quoting my posts directly inferring that I was a "closet agnostic".
But as usual, they always make sure they have plausible deniability because everyone knows a preacher would never call anyone a name... "Heavens No! You just took it the wrong way."
The fear-mongers will not have any power when more people start standing up to them.
SD, I completly defend your right to question. If I thought anyone was being threatening to you because of your questioning the traditional position that many of us (myself included) follow, I would stand up and tell them to stop.
What i saw from Bro. E was simply the typical kind of exchange that takes place here. I dont think he was doing anything out his character.
Nor do I think you over stepped. I do think you over reacted to his last comment a little but not by much.
just trying to find balance bro.
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SD, I completly defend your right to question. If I thought anyone was being threatening to you because of your questioning the traditional position that many of us (myself included) follow, I would stand up and tell them to stop.
What i saw from Bro. E was simply the typical kind of exchange that takes place here. I dont think he was doing anything out his character.
Nor do I think you over stepped. I do think you over reacted to his last comment a little but not by much.
just trying to find balance bro.
Spread the smarm, my friend, spread the smarm!
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I must be getting senile did I pronounce some judgment on the poster? I just addressed the attitude he has about the Word of God. Evidently the Bible means squat to him he sees it as a book written by man that contains the Word of God instead of being the Word of God. I did NOT threaten him or anyone else on here. Then he challenges me????? I will NOT address him again. You know the name of this forum might be misleading Apostolic????????????
My comment was regarding this statement:
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Originally Posted by Steve Epley The gospel is too simple for some folks Jesus said wash feet and they clean the house-mow the grass? Washing feet is an ordinance that is binding on the NT church today. Jesus did it literally and commanded them to do it and the early church practiced it. A church that does NOT practice literal feetwashing is NOT an Apostolic church!
Taking Communion and footwashing is something we should do but it is not given as a prerequisite to being Apostolic. The Bible tells us to do it as a rememberance as oft as you do it. It is a symbol just like the blood applied to the doorpost.
It is not a salvational matter and I often wonder about folks that make all things a heaven or hell issue.
Taking Communion and footwashing is something we should do but it is not given as a prerequisite to being Apostolic. The Bible tells us to do it as a rememberance as oft as you do it. It is a symbol just like the blood applied to the doorpost.
It is not a salvational matter and I often wonder about folks that make all things a heaven or hell issue.
Blessings, Rhoni
It becomes a Heaven or Hell issue when it is not preached as Apostolic doctrine. The teaching of it helps defines the Apostolic church. Someone may be in ill health and could not take it. But EVERY bonifide-geniune-true-Apostolic church teaches the observance of the Lord's Supper and Feetwashing. I ain't moving. Someone may never have the opportunity to observe them that would not cause them to be lost but rejecting the teaching and refusing to obey it will certainly cause one to be lost.
It becomes a Heaven or Hell issue when it is not preached as Apostolic doctrine. The teaching of it helps defines the Apostolic church. Someone may be in ill health and could not take it. But EVERY bonifide-geniune-true-Apostolic church teaches the observance of the Lord's Supper and Feetwashing. I ain't moving. Someone may never have the opportunity to observe them that would not cause them to be lost but rejecting the teaching and refusing to obey it will certainly cause one to be lost.
It seems that some place foot washing on a par with communion. Is it valid to do so? Are foot washing and communion requirements with equal gravity?
Next, are either salvific? If I were to refuse to join in with a typical wine and crackers communion service in an Apostilic church, would I be lost? Let's say I just refused because it all smacked of "shamanism" or something. Am I lost?
It seems that some place foot washing on a par with communion. Is it valid to do so? Are foot washing and communion requirements with equal gravity?
Next, are either salvific? If I were to refuse to join in with a typical wine and crackers communion service in an Apostilic church, would I be lost? Let's say I just refused because it all smacked of "shamanism" or something. Am I lost?
Explain "shamanism" to me? How could something Jesus DID and commanded be see as that????????????????????
A church that does NOT teach the obsevance of the Lord's Supper and Feetwashing is NOT an Apostolic church.
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