Saved WithOut The Holy Ghost ?

[freeatlast]

I recall many times being taught that the Epistles were written to teach the church how to stay saved, not how to be saved.

Then God showed me the language Paul used was reminding them how they got saved. by grace thru faith in God's imputed rightousness.

I also recall the teachihg that no one was ever saved in the gospels...you know you only find salvation in the book of Acts

Then again God showed me that John wrote the book of John more than 20 years or so AFTER the day of Pentecost.

John had witnessed people speaking in tongues and had surely seen people being baptized by the time he got around to writting his account.

Don' you find it a bit amazing that John never speaks of or mentions this "pentecostal" stuff after being a Pentecostal preacher all those years.

Most Pentecostal preachers today can't get thru their introduction without reiterating the necesity of speakinjg in tongues to saved...let alobne write a whole book and never mention it.

John even declares why he recorded all his writing about how if you "believe" in Jesus you will have eternal life. John 20:31 "but these are written that you may believe that Jesus is the Christ, the son of God, and that by believing ye may have life in his name."

I remeber well , lessons I recieved that stated every place in the book of Acts that someone got save it is recorded that they spoke in tongues.

HogWash !! Over 20 accounts of people or groups of people coming to faith in Christ and wee see only 3 or 4 accounts of tongues happening.

These were inagural events where we see tongues Jews / Samaritans/ Gentiles reciving salavation....the Samaritans and Gentiles just happened to speak in tongues as an evidence to the unbelieving Jews that were present. Jews that could not believe any body but them could be saved.

In no way does it state or imply that tongues will always occur when some one gets saved NOWHERE...but yet we ASSUME that it implys it will wlways happen.

We call our doctrine theology when it is no more than idealogy.

A handful of scripture pounded together to form a doctrine.

A doctrine that does not meld together with the whole of scripture

A doctrine that made one of leading bible schools ignore the book of Romans and not even teach Romans other than a handful of scriptures that seemed to fit with a tongues evidence salvation. Seemed to fit if you didn't read the rest of the book.